Originally posted by The Sorrow
He's still powerful though, and his strength is far more plot device now than in has been in the recent past.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh he's powerful but the main thing which made Hulk so dangerous, anger/strength dynamic is almost non-existent in this hulk. His strength is plot devicey but only against random objects and oneshot characters. His record against established top tiers is meh like getting KOed by residual lightning on Thor's body.
Well every character has lower end showings, but being flash ko'd/stunned by Thor's lightning when the same attack ko'd Thor himself isn't actually that low when you look at the context.
Originally posted by The SorrowExactly. When applying the same standards or principles to other characters things suddenly change.
That could be due to the fact he seems to ramp up his strength quicker, he is basically as strong as he needs to be now and his hard durability has significantly improved over say, Paks Hulk too.Well every character has lower end showings, but being flash ko'd/stunned by Thor's lightning when the same attack ko'd Thor himself isn't actually that low when you look at the context.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
That could be due to the fact he seems to ramp up his strength quicker, he is basically as strong as he needs to be now and his hard durability has significantly improved over say, Paks Hulk too.Well every character has lower end showings, but being flash ko'd/stunned by Thor's lightning when the same attack ko'd Thor himself isn't actually that low when you look at the context.
Thor was KOED by over exertion, not by lightning itself IIRC. Savage wasn't ever that susceptible to the point he gets KOED by residual lightning.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Does he? I don't think I've seen him getting stronger like savage.Thor was KOED by over exertion, not by lightning itself IIRC. Savage wasn't ever that susceptible to the point he gets KOED by residual lightning.
Are you really going that route ABHI? Stop lowballing, bc again, things wasn't as you are making it when it came to Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
It was said during Doomsdays war. I have all of the issues and I am reading through it. I'm also looking for that scene where it was stated that a continent buster would kill Superman.
I would wait where Steel was said to be a peer of Superman though.
Also just before that Superman took around a dozen blasts from a nigh-omnipotent Lex Luthor without going down and a blast from an omnipotent Lex with only a short KO.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure thing buddy. Steel said that he couldn't survive the ship crashing but he survived it anyway. What does that have to with anything? A mountain peak destroying blast KOED this Hulk, a continent buster would probably vaporize him.I would wait where Steel was said to be a peer of Superman though.
Also just before that Superman took around a dozen blasts from a nigh-omnipotent Lex Luthor without going down and a blast from an omnipotent Lex with only a short KO.
He survived it because the ship was slowed AFTER the comment of the continent buster. Doomsday himself assisted in slowing the ship. Superman didn't deny that a continent buster would have killed him either. Also, when did a mountain buster ko Hulk? Especially this version of Hulk that has, to my knowledge, tanked 2 nukes to the face without damage.
Lol, the Lex showing is so inconsistent, it's crazy and it was also explained why Superman survived that encounter. Wish I had the scans on me.
Originally posted by carver9
He survived it because the ship was slowed AFTER the comment of the continent buster. Doomsday himself assisted in slowing the ship. Superman didn't deny that a continent buster would have killed him either. Also, when did a mountain buster ko Hulk? Especially this version of Hulk that has, to my knowledge, tanked 2 nukes to the face without damage.Lol, the Lex showing is so inconsistent, it's crazy and it was also explained why Superman survived that encounter. Wish I had the scans on me.
Inconsistent? The Zone child awakened and started limiting Lex's power but untill he was totally drained of power Lex was creating universal peace, cancelling out Death and shit like that. Superman fought and took attacks from an abstract. There is nothing inconsistent with it. Heck, Lex himself said he needs omnipotence to kill Superman. I know it chafes your ass but Superman is THE king in high end feats.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Does he? I don't think I've seen him getting stronger like savage.Thor was KOED by over exertion, not by lightning itself IIRC. Savage wasn't ever that susceptible to the point he gets KOED by residual lightning.
It think that is the case, but it must have been very powerful for Thor to pass out from his own attack, it seemed more akin to the pure innate lighting he uses on occasion. Hulk caught Thor falling whose body was still visibly supercharged, and got an unexpected blast for his troubles which ko'd him for 30 seconds. You would have a point if the two were actually fighting and resisting each other but they were working together at that stage.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Current Hulk is "Savage" Hulk.It think that is the case, but it must have been very powerful for Thor to pass out from his own attack, it seemed more akin to the pure innate lighting he uses on occasion. Hulk caught Thor falling whose body was still visibly supercharged, and got an unexpected blast for his troubles which ko'd him for 30 seconds. You would have a point if the two were actually fighting and resisting each other but they were working together at that stage.
Nah, not supercharged. Just the residue of that lightning. It was embarrassing as a Hulk fan TBH.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? The ship was slowing at that point and then everyone was clear as Superman and the rest of the guys slowed it down. Doomslayer was stated to die in that blast too, so it was clear that any top tier would've died in that attack.Inconsistent? The Zone child awakened and started limiting Lex's power but untill he was totally drained of power Lex was creating universal peace, cancelling out Death and shit like that. Superman fought and took attacks from an abstract. There is nothing inconsistent with it. Heck, Lex himself said he needs omnipotence to kill Superman. I know it chafes your ass but Superman is THE king in high end feats.
Glad we got that it would have taken a continent buster to kill him. Stated in panel.
Scan of Lex saying that. Also, when was it stated that Lex was trying to kill him. Give me the issue number so that I can get this comic? I remember context being involved.
Originally posted by carver9
Glad we got that it would have taken a continent buster to kill him. Stated in panel.Scan of Lex saying that. Also, when was it stated that Lex was trying to kill him. Give me the issue number so that I can get this comic? I remember context being involved.
In the same issue.
Its from Action Comics 900. Read and weep.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You can say all you want, its not going to change anything. Superman is stronger, more durable and faster than Indestructible Hulk who doesn't shows the same level of anger/strength dynamic as other hulks.
I have to disagree. If you watch the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmjHaiO59lc
Near the end, it shows Indestructible Hulk surviving and overpowering the weight of a supernova. A Supernova is, at least, a million times the mass of Earth. That's impressive strength. Also he's survived Absolute Zero (also in the video), and has walked through the timestream. It was shown that stopping time didn't even stop him from moving.
Originally posted by DarkRaiden
I have to disagree. If you watch the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmjHaiO59lcNear the end, it shows Indestructible Hulk surviving and overpowering the weight of a supernova. A Supernova is, at least, a million times the mass of Earth. That's impressive strength. Also he's survived Absolute Zero (also in the video), and has walked through the timestream. It was shown that stopping time didn't even stop him from moving.