Sabre's cutting right through her thin frame.
Originally posted by KingD19
The lightsaber's didn't cut through Phrik, which is what Grievous' Magnaguards used on the tips of their staffs. Movie canon and tv canon as well.
Yeah, but it's also coursing with an energy of some sort. From a film/tv standpoint it seems to be the energy that allows the staff to resist the blade not the metal.
Furthermore, in one episode of the CW, they were going to have a mandalorian use a vibroblade against Kenobi. Lucas straight up nixed the idea saying it couldn't withstand a lightsaber.
Originally posted by FrothByte
As previously mentioned, Sif survived a shotgun.
It seemed to hit her armor. Plus, earlier in the episode she was taking cover from bullets and using her to shield to protect herself from them.
Originally posted by ares834
Yeah, but it's also coursing with an energy of some sort. From a film/tv standpoint it seems to be the energy that allows the staff to resist the blade not the metal.Furthermore, in one episode of the CW, they were going to have a mandalorian use a vibroblade against Kenobi. Lucas straight up nixed the idea saying it couldn't withstand a lightsaber.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Electrostaff
The Electrostaff was tipped with Phrik, which was lightsaber resistant. The energy was electricity that made it more than just a blunt striking/thrusting weapon like a normal staff. So it's the material that's resistant, not the electrical energy which only serves to intensify the pain delivered when hit or to stun an opponent or outright kill them if the setting was turned up high enough.
Regardless of what he nixed, Phrik has still been shown being highly resistant to lightsabers, which is the point I was making that a metal has been shown to resist them in the movie/tv canon.
Originally posted by KingD19
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/ElectrostaffThe Electrostaff was tipped with Phrik, which was lightsaber resistant. The energy was electricity that made it more than just a blunt striking/thrusting weapon like a normal staff. So it's the material that's resistant, not the electrical energy which only serves to intensify the pain delivered when hit or to stun an opponent or outright kill them if the setting was turned up high enough.
Regardless of what he nixed, Phrik has still been shown being highly resistant to lightsabers, which is the point I was making that a metal has been shown to resist them in the movie/tv canon.
Not according to Lucas. He never backed the idea that a metal can resist a Lightsaber. So the Electorstaff would have been an energy weapon resisting a Lightsaber to him.
Electricity doesn't resist a lightsaber. Electricity doesn't even have a tangible form to do so. The only thing that could have resisted it was the Prhik it was comprised of, which is documented. The electricity surrounding the prhik was basically like a souped up taser.
You can't just ignore what's displayed plainly on the screen.
That's like me saying, "Nope, Thor can't crush Iron Man's armor" because Stan Lee said he didn't believe it was possible despite it clearly being shown in Avengers.
Originally posted by KingD19
Electricity doesn't resist a lightsaber. Electricity doesn't even have a tangible form to do so. The only thing that could have resisted it was the Prhik it was comprised of, which is documented. The electricity surrounding the prhik was basically like a souped up taser.
Again that wasn't what Lucas had in mind. There clearly was some sort of energy around the staff, which is what Lucas intended to resist the Lightsaber. If he wanted to show a metal resisting it, then he would have just shown a plain metal staff without any energy flowing around it.
Originally posted by KingD19
You can't just ignore what's displayed plainly on the screen.
I'm not. It's your conclusion I'm arguing, since it's not how the creator of the film intended it.
Originally posted by KingD19
That's like me saying, "Nope, Thor can't crush Iron Man's armor" because Stan Lee said he didn't believe it was possible despite it clearly being shown in Avengers.
If your talking about the Avengers movie, then I'm pretty sure whatever Joss Whedon said about it would be canon. Considering he did write and direct the film. With Lucas's words the canon is to an even greater extent given that he created the franchise, and owned it at the time.
And the source your using as proof - Wiki- is not official canon even for the EU btw, let alone Movie canon.
Originally posted by Placidity
That's not canon. Why did you even think that would work?And btw, what do you mean by "survive"? Did she tank it like a boss Superman style or what?
OF course it's canon. Agents of SHIELD is still part of the MCU and the SIf that appeared there is the same Sif that was in Thor.
And yes, she tanked it like a boss. She looked surprised when she got shot, but otherwise not even a mark was seen on her. And she was shot from something like 4-5 feet away.
Originally posted by Psychotron
You think Sif's durability is = that of a futuristic blast door just because she tanked a shotgun? No way. And she has no counter to the Force.
Not really no. I just think that light sabers don't cut through every material with the same ease. So if Kenobi tries to cut at Sif expecting his lightsaber to go clean through and instead gets stuck half-way through, then he gets a bone-shattering punch to the face before Sif dies.
As I said already in my previous post, I do believe Kenobi wins. But I wouldn't be surprised if Sif got 1-2 wins off simply due to her greater strength and durability.
Lol. Some sort of energy. It was electricity. It was an electrostaff. Until Lucas goes on record and says Episode III and that episode with the Magnaguard in Clone Wars didn't happen, or directly disputes what's been established as canon(I.E. Phrik resisting sabers, and the staff being made of phrik and an electrostaff), that's what happened.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Not really no. I just think that light sabers don't cut through every material with the same ease. So if Kenobi tries to cut at Sif expecting his lightsaber to go clean through and instead gets stuck half-way through, then he gets a bone-shattering punch to the face before Sif dies.As I said already in my previous post, I do believe Kenobi wins. But I wouldn't be surprised if Sif got 1-2 wins off simply due to her greater strength and durability.
If Sif gets cut even half-way through she'll be dead.
Originally posted by KingD19In the Clone Wars episode with the ancient "obisidian lightsaber", the lightsaber was supposed to be a vibrosword, but Lucas made them change it to a lightsaber. When he was asked why he did it in an interview, his response was that, in his universe, "only a lightsaber can resist a lightsaber".
Lol. Some sort of energy. It was electricity. It was an electrostaff. Until Lucas goes on record and says Episode III and that episode with the Magnaguard in Clone Wars didn't happen, or directly disputes what's been established as canon(I.E. Phrik resisting sabers, and the staff being made of phrik and an electrostaff), that's what happened.
So, by association, it would have to be the energy aspect of the electrostaff that resists the lightsaber, not some metallic substance.