Batman vs. Captain America

Originally posted by namorsubby
If Batman throws gas pellets down....what does Cap do? Suffocate....that's what.

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
or hold his breath and leave the area. 😱 😱 😱 😱

Steve can just breathe it in, his metabolism is going to negate 90% of the gas, he might feel a numbness but nothing that's a one hit quitter.

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
Batman wins 7/10 thanks to mad gadgets.

Originally posted by h1a8
not with batman's gadgets. Too unfair. Bats wins 10/10.

with gadgets 10/10 in just hand to hand 6/10 with prep and gadgets 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111/10
with prep and no gadgets 8/10

The only way cap can beat bats is if he uses shield and batman is only h2h

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Yea Bruce worked hard to achieve his status while Cap got his from a bottle.

Cap had to train too to be everything he is. Otherwise he would just be a super low end brick. The bottle didn't put him at the top of the MA hill in the marvel universe.

It's gonna be tough to hold his breath while Bruce is still engaging him in combat. Not to mention that Batman has an array of other gadgets that can take Steve out of this fight by themselves.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Steve can just breathe it in, his metabolism is going to negate 90% of the gas, he might feel a numbness but nothing that's a one hit quitter.

Originally posted by h1a8
LOL. Cap has threw the shield a billion times. It never went through anyone (including humans). Hell, peek humans have caught or dodged the shield before. So that feat is an outlier (PIS) or we have to argue against character of Cap throwing it that hard against Batman.

Why can't Batman easily dodge, catch, or deflect a shield throw?

Cap has decapitated a Tank with that shield.

Always thought its because it's partially vibranium. Cap doesn't decapitate people nor loses his arms when he catches it (holding back maybe?). Either way the shield's been cought on several occasions by people other than Cap. It is possible.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Cap has decapitated a Tank with that shield.

Batman MAY be able to catch it you mean. There's absolutely no guarantee.

Originally posted by namorsubby
what do you base this stance on?

I still say flip a coin for the Cap vs Bats match. Though Nu52 Bats may need more feats.

Originally posted by Badabing
I still say flip a coin for the Cap vs Bats match. Though Nu52 Bats may need more feats.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
his feats vs gases & poisons...

Nu52 Batman is the same as Pre 52, DC has already stated the continuity is in tact.

I also love how Cap fanboys use the seldom instances of Cap's shield ripping through a tank but ignores the more numerous instances of his shield getting deflected by much less.

In raw hand to hand Bats wins, a greater mastery of pressure points and the ability to reverse pressure points which Cap lacks. Caps physicals aren't that much of a gap either but of course of Cap fans will try to make Cap seem like he's 10x stronger than Bruce.

Originally posted by chilled monkey

It's easy to get training when you have unlimited money to go to all the really great gyms, buy the best equipment, travel the world and track down zen masters to teach you uber fighting skills etc.

One of the dumbest post I've read on this forum and that's saying alot.

You can have the money to go the best gyms, get the best equipment and learn the best fighting skills.

You STILL need to put the work in, Bruce didn't get to sit on his ass in a mansion, when he traveled the world he had to put in the work, time, discipline and dedication to learning all the skills he needed.

That's a hell of a bigger accomplishment then Steve getting his physical stats from some steroids.

Its kind of a silly argument to make as they were both fortunate to receive something instrumental to them being who the are (money, sss) Would Batman be at the level he's at without money? Hell no sir. Cap and Bats both worked to become top martial artists and strategists.

It's not silly, they aren't even comparable. Bruce went through a hell of a lot more than Cap did to be what he is. Cap worked hard but compared to Bruce he may as well have sat on his ass while WW2 Scientist injected him with more steroids.

The steroids didn't teach Cap strategy or martial arts or how to be a leader.. Those are all the thing Cap is actually known for. None of which came from the serum.