Malak became very powerful during his reign as the ruler of a Sith Empire; he single-handedly fought and outdueled Revan, Bastilla and Carth onboard his starship without any external aid. It can be argued that Revan was not at his finest during this encounter but his companions weren't mooks either.
As far as Force Mastery is considered, Malak can unleash powerful bursts of lightning, freeze opponents in place, perform decent telekinetic feats and even drain energy from others to supplement his own. I don't see why Malak cannot harm or find a way to undermine many individuals in this list, he isn't a talentless feeb.
Originally posted by Nephthys
That Malak is powerful isn't in question, its just that these combatants outclass him by a wide margin.
Successfully running a Sith Empire and harnessing the power of dark side wonders such as Star Forge requires ELITE level power and command of the dark side.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malak is among the most underrated individuals of the mythos.
His accolades and force abilities are quite incredible. And Drew then even further implied his lightsaber skills are even better then his force.
"He was renowned for his combat abilities...I also felt that he wasn't as strong at using the Force in other ways as Revan was."
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I doubt this; most individuals in the list haven't been tested in ways like Malak have been.Successfully running a Sith Empire and harnessing the power of dark side wonders such as Star Forge requires ELITE level power and command of the dark side.
So? And Malak has never had to come back from the freaking dead like Krayt has. Or survive getting cut in half like Maul. Hell, Maul is one of the most rigorously trained Sith Apprentices in history. If anything, Malak hasn't been tested like Maul has.
Who cares about that crap? It doesn't make him a better fighter than any of these guys. Running the Star Forge won't stop Krayt from killing him in a single touch.
Originally posted by Nephthys
So? And Malak has never had to come back from the freaking dead like Krayt has.
Ask a doctor if anybody can survive a decapitated jaw in life. And Malak was walking around after such a major injury as if nothing had happened to him.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Or survive getting cut in half like Maul. Hell, Maul is one of the most rigorously trained Sith Apprentices in history. If anything, Malak hasn't been tested like Maul has.
Also, this 'one of the most rigorously trained Sith apprentices' argument doesn't impresses me.
Malak had moved beyond the phase of being a mere apprentice and acquired very impressive mastery of the Force in the long run, he is much more accomplished Sith Lord then Maul. In addition, leaders of a Sith Empire are tested in ways like apprentices never are. I expect you to think logically and not make lame assertions just because you don't like a character.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Who cares about that crap? It doesn't make him a better fighter than any of these guys. Running the Star Forge won't stop Krayt from killing him in a single touch.
I do believe that 5 and onwards have a chance against Malak but I also believe that Malak can approach 9th spot at least if he fights smart.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malak is noted to have great tolerance for pain. He endured life-threatening experiments performed on him by a mad Mandalorian scientist and decapitation of his lower jaw bone in a duel (absolutely fatal injury).Ask a doctor if anybody can survive a decapitated jaw in life. And Malak was walking around after such a major injury as if nothing had happened to him.
Yeah, and Malak is going to need a great tolerance for pain when fighting Vader, Krayt and Bane because they're going to kick his ass.
I fail to see how that's more impressive that coming back from the dead though. 😬
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Maul is not a human, zabraks are highly tolerant to injuries by default.Also, this 'one of the most rigorously trained Sith apprentices' argument doesn't impresses me.
Malak had moved beyond the phase of being a mere apprentice and acquired very impressive mastery of the Force in the long run, he is much more accomplished Sith Lord then Maul. In addition, leaders of a Sith Empire are tested in ways like apprentices never are. I expect you to think logically and not make lame assertions just because you don't like a character.
Zabraks aren't that tolerant of injury. They can't survive getting cut in half. Maul specifically credits his survival to the training Sidious had given him.
🙄 I meant that Maul has received some of the best training out of anyone in he mythos. He is constantly training and has been all his life. We know that Malak wasn't as rigorously trained from the Kotor comics. The same ones where he lost to a non-force sensitive in a fight.
How are leaders tested? Malak got his position through firing on Revan's ship, not combat. That he was the best Sith after Revan doesn't automatically put him above Maul.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Great power makes difference in combat situations; Malak's powers are likely to be effective against majority in this list.I do believe that 5 and onwards have a chance against Malak but I also believe that Malak can approach 9th spot at least if he fights smart.
What, and these characters don't possess great power? Vader, Krayt and Bane are more powerful than Malak and can easily resist his powers. Maul is easily as powerful as him as well. This is the same guy who got beaten by Revan over and over again despite being amped by the Star Forge.
The only evidence you've offered is that he was the leader of a Sith Empire and could control the Star Forge. Excuse me while I don't swoon. I ask you, how does Malak deal with Krayt's Dark Transfer? Krayt can kill Malak with a single touch and he is definitely fast and powerful enough to touch Malak if he wants to. And Vader and Bane just flat out stomp him with their superior Force powers. Malak can't resist Vaders TK or Banes lightning. That is, if he can even beat Maul.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, and Malak is going to need a great tolerance for pain when fighting Vader, Krayt and Bane because they're going to kick his ass.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I fail to see how that's more impressive that coming back from the dead though. 😬
Originally posted by Nephthys
Zabraks aren't that tolerant of injury. They can't survive getting cut in half. Maul specifically credits his survival to the training Sidious had given him.
Originally posted by Nephthys
🙄 I meant that Maul has received some of the best training out of anyone in he mythos. He is constantly training and has been all his life. We know that Malak wasn't as rigorously trained from the Kotor comics. The same ones where he lost to a non-force sensitive in a fight.
Originally posted by Nephthys
How are leaders tested? Malak got his position through firing on Revan's ship, not combat. That he was the best Sith after Revan doesn't automatically put him above Maul.
Originally posted by Nephthys
What, and these characters don't possess great power? Vader, Krayt and Bane are more powerful than Malak and can easily resist his powers. Maul is easily as powerful as him as well. This is the same guy who got beaten by Revan over and over again despite being amped by the Star Forge.
I do believe in the possibility of Malak loosing to these individuals but I also believe that Malak can defeat these individuals as well, he is this much powerful.
Also, what do you mean by beaten by Revan over and over? This doesn't makes any sense. Malak's loss is affirmed only at this point: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061213185922/jedipedia/de/images/9/9e/MalakTod.jpg
Prior to this point, it was a fierce struggle between the two.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The only evidence you've offered is that he was the leader of a Sith Empire and could control the Star Forge. Excuse me while I don't swoon. I ask you, how does Malak deal with Krayt's Dark Transfer? Krayt can kill Malak with a single touch and he is definitely fast and powerful enough to touch Malak if he wants to. And Vader and Bane just flat out stomp him with their superior Force powers. Malak can't resist Vaders TK or Banes lightning. That is, if he can even beat Maul.
And I don't see how Vader and Bane flat out stomp Malak. By this logic, they flat our stomp Revan and even Sith Emperor.
