Hero of Tython vs. Darth Krayt

Started by Lord Stark3 pages

And yet Krayt died and Cade lived to fight another day. If its a battle of wills HoT dominates because Orgus Din will just come in and say 'Don't let fear dictate your actions' just like Luke did.

It's not a battle of wills though. Dark Transfer kills (or can heal) you, that's it. It has nothing to do with dominating minds.

Originally posted by ares834
It's not a battle of wills though. Dark Transfer kills (or can heal) you, that's it. It has nothing to do with dominating minds.

Then how did Cade survive?

Huh, like I said already, Krayt wasn't trying to kill Cade. Krayt brought Cade to the edge of death and then healed him.

Originally posted by ares834
Huh, like I said already, Krayt wasn't trying to kill Cade. Krayt brought Cade to the edge of death and then healed him.

What? Why?

When Cade was near death he had some visions of himself as a Sith. Apparently, Kryat that inducing these visions in Cade and making Cade get that close to death would turn Cade to the dark side and make Cade his apprentice.

I was under the impression that Krayt killed Cade and resurrected him. Doesn't he state that he experienced death and rebirth and it made him better, so the Galaxy(and Cade) would go through the same thing?

Perhaps. Although, I've always thought Krayt was fairly hyperbolic in his claims. Especially since his thoughts at the beginning of War #1 makes it seem he never actually died.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Then how did Cade survive?

What? Why?

Did you actually read the comics?

Krayt flat-out says that he wanted Cade to experience death and rebirth as Krayt himself did so that he would understand his place in the galaxy and become Krayt's apprentice.

As it turned out the plan backfired completely as Cade did indeed understand who he was and his place in the galaxy. He knew that he was a Jedi.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Did you actually read the comics?

Krayt flat-out says that he wanted Cade to experience death and rebirth as Krayt himself did so that he would understand his place in the galaxy and become Krayt's apprentice.

As it turned out the plan backfired completely as Cade did indeed understand who he was and his place in the galaxy. He knew that he was a Jedi.

No that's why I am asking, genius.

Seems like BS to me tbh, there's questionable intel on Krayt even dying in the first place. Also why wouldn't Sidious use this on his opponents if this were a thing.

Originally posted by Lord Stark

Seems like BS to me tbh, there's questionable intel on Krayt even dying in the first place.

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Also why wouldn't Sidious use this on his opponents if this were a thing. [/B]

... because Sidious is unable to resurrect anyone?

The power wasn't invented until after his death IIRC

Krayt.

Originally posted by Unbowed
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... because Sidious is unable to resurrect anyone?

"He used this power to torture Bevel Lemelisk after the destruction of the first Death Star, and during perceived lack of progress on developing the second. In total, Lemelisk was killed and resurrected seven times—usually when one of the Imperial engineer's superweapon designs failed. Each time, Lemelisk died in agony, only to awaken in a fresh clone."~New Essential Guide

Not really the same thing imo.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not really the same thing imo.

No, perhaps not. Either way I think the HoT can defeat Krayt.

Look at the comics again. He did not kill Cade. It was an illusion.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
No that's why I am asking, genius.

Why not? Legacy is really cool. Not as great as Fate of the Jedi but still very good

Also saying stuff like this:

Originally posted by Lord Stark
And yet Krayt died and Cade lived to fight another day. If its a battle of wills HoT dominates

Basically acting like you know better than people who HAVE read the comics. That's how it reads anyway.

That's pretty arrogant seeing as you don't actually have a clue what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Seems like BS to me tbh, there's questionable intel on Krayt even dying in the first place.

So what? Even if he didn't actually die he was close enough.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Also why wouldn't Sidious use this on his opponents if this were a thing.

Gee, maybe because he couldn't seeing as he didn't have that power.

Yes I have read "Darksaber" (one of the first Star Wars novels I ever read. It's pretty good). Nephthys is right. What Palpatine did to revive Lemelisk is a similar but different thing.

Sorry, didn't mean to double post.

Originally posted by Lord Stark

Seems like BS to me tbh, there's questionable intel on Krayt even dying in the first place.

Krayt had a lightsaber shoved in the base of his neck, was hit by his own force lightning combined with that of an ancient sith, thrown off a cliff, then coup de grace'd with more lightning to finish him off.

No life signs could be detected, not even through the force, and his body was put into stasis to hide that fact.

You don't get much more dead.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Look at the comics again. He did not kill Cade. It was an illusion.

He specifically did, and gave Cade a vision in the process.

"Death is the only way you can understand my vision," is something Krayt tells Cade while doing so.