Superman (Man of Steel) vs. Senator Armstrong (MGRR)

Originally posted by ares834
lol no. Play MGR.

Raiden can jump from missile to missile meaning he can move (and fight) at supersonic speeds. And yet, he wasn't able to blitz Armstong despite. How is MoS Superman, a guy who fights at slower speeds and who is weaker going to do so?

Faora was able and manhandle an entire squad of marines in like 5 seconds, Raiden couldn't even blitz that Scientist that had a gun to George's head and ended up having to bifurcate him. Sundowner also implied that Raiden is slower than Mach 2, so I don't know where you're getting this super sonic crap from.

MGR Raiden at the very best may be as fast as Spiderman.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Superman and Zod fighting to outer space and back don't count?

Nope. Plus he can't fly in this thread.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Lol, get ****ed. Superman wins.

lol, Superman can't do shit. Raiden's punches didn't even tickle Armstong and he is vastly stronger than MoS Superman.

Supes gets stomped.

Raiden is slower than Mach 2 and couldn't blitz a single scientist, also there is no evidence of Raiden being stronger either.

Raiden's best feat was lifting Excelsus after he had already lobbed off most of the armor.

The oil rig that Superman was holding up probably weighed more and this was a younger, less experienced Superman.

lol

It's not even close. The Excelsus feat blows the shit out of the oil rig one.

Beyond playing leapfrog with missiles, Raiden does things like casually block machine gun fire. That's a bit above anything Superman shows in MoS when it comes to reflexes/reaction speed.

But keep hatin. How many sock accounts have you created now to hate on MG? 4? 5?

lol blocking machine gun fire, congratulations, you just put Raiden on par with a peak human 😂

The Oil Rig is heavier than Excelsus, Excelsus at the very most is a few thousand tons and Raiden destroyed most of it's armor and plating, an Oil Rig can weight upwards of a million tons, even if Clark was holding a fraction of it it's still much heavier, do some research next time, then again you're the one throwing crap around like Raiden fighting and moving at super sonic speeds even though he couldn't blitz a scientist and Sundower said the complete opposite

Come back when you get some facts kid, until then I accept your concession.

Originally posted by MicCheck
lol blocking machine gun fire, congratulations, you just put Raiden on par with a peak human 😂

facepalm

Originally posted by MicCheck
The Oil Rig is heavier than Excelsus, do some research next time, then again you're the one throwing crap around like Raiden fighting and moving at super sonic speeds even though he couldn't blitz a scientist and Sundower said the complete opposite

That portion of the oil rig SUperman "held" up is heavier than Excelsus... 😂

lol an oil rig can weigh up to 1.2 million tons, Excelsus at the very best is a few thousand tons, except Raiden already destroyed most of it's heavier plating and armor.

I love it when delusional people like you keep posting when they've clearly lost. Come back when Raiden can blitz a scientist 😂

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. Plus he can't fly in this thread.

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lol, Superman can't do shit. Raiden's punches didn't even tickle Armstong and he is vastly stronger than MoS Superman.

Supes gets stomped.

Doesn't need to. He can leap, and he demonstrated the reaction-time to fight during that scene.

As for strength and durability, Superman overpowered the World Engine and took its destruction without any superficial damage. That's above Armstrong's pay grade.

Originally posted by MicCheck
lol an oil rig can weigh up to 1.2 million tons, Excelsus at the very best is a few thousand tons, except Raiden already destroyed most of it's heavier plating and armor.

Good thing he didn't hold up the whole oil rig.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Doesn't need to. He can leap, and he demonstrated the reaction-time to fight during that scene.

He demonstrated reaction times on par with a Jet pilot. Nothing to scoff at but not extraordinarily goo either.

Originally posted by NemeBro
As for strength and durability, Superman overpowered the World Engine and took its destruction without any superficial damage. That's above Armstrong's pay grade.

Perhaps.

No one said he held up the entire rig, in fact I specifically stated that Clark holding a fraction of it would be above Excelsus, Clark could of held up 1/50 of the rig and it would of been heavier.

The part Clark was pushing back on was only 2-300 tons. It was only a hollow, skeletal structure.

Originally posted by MicCheck
No one said he held up the entire rig, in fact I specifically stated that Clark holding a fraction of it would be above Excelsus, Clark could of held up 1/50 of the rig and it would of been heavier.

The could have held it forever if the ground had not given way and the thing had not toppled over on him.

Are we still doing the "combat speed" shit for Superman?

:galacticryoma

whoa, never expected things to get so heated up so fast.

Originally posted by MicCheck
No one said he held up the entire rig, in fact I specifically stated that Clark holding a fraction of it would be above Excelsus, Clark could of held up 1/50 of the rig and it would of been heavier.

The ground gave way and it toppled over on him, he isn't 200ft tall. He's 6'2. There was nothing he could do to stop it. He held it till the structure failed. This is easy to see.

But he was exerting a lot of effort to hold it up.

but considering his feats later in the movie, it seems that at that point in time, he had yet to fully tap into his full potential. and like Time Immemorial said, the oil rig did collapse on him...

Flight and heat vision maybe. His strength never seemed to be an issue to use. And I know it collapsed, I was just pointing out it wasn't an easy thing for him to hold it up, even before the platform buckled under him.

Originally posted by KingD19
But he was exerting a lot of effort to hold it up.

Whats wrong with that? Every character strains for feats in the movie, to make it look more real for the viewer.

I'm pointing out that he was exerting a lot of effort. I don't think Armstrong would have struggled like that in the same situation. It would have ended the same because the platform itself couldn't handle that weight, but he wouldn't have struggled like Clark did.