Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not true though... Iron man gave Thor a good run for his money and that is above anything Doom ever showed in the movies
Doom wrecked Grim and was about to kill him, till his friends came and saved him. Grim is above Thor in strength and durability based of screen feats.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not true though... Iron man gave Thor a good run for his money and that is above anything Doom ever showed in the movies
Doom's electroblast on the other hand was felt by the Silver freaking Surfer, who would roast people like Avengers Thor and MoS Superman alive in a forum match.
Try to be realistic about this, instead of letting your hate for those godawful movies blind you with bias.
Originally posted by Epicurus
^You do realize that neither scenario is actually going to work in this matchup, right?
Originally posted by TheGrat1
What makes you think an AT missle won't kill Doom? He will literally explode from the inside out. Doom also has no way of harming him. Worst case scenario Tony throws him in the Marianas trench and watches him sink to the bottom.
Are you serious? You think Stark's puny missile is going to hurt a guy who can go toe to toe with the Thing and tank supernova heat?
Originally posted by Psychotron
Are you serious? You think Stark's puny missile is going to hurt a guy who can go toe to toe with the Thing and tank supernova heat?
1. Melting point has no discernible correlation to density in this instance, or did they happen to identify what material/element Doom's skin was or was closest to in the movie?
2. Johnny's "supernova" is just a fancy name for the attack. I believe Johnny got to 4000 kelvin when Sue said he was close to going supernova. However, when comparing that to an actual supernova she is off by millions of kelvin, not even close. It's not terribly impressive for a superhero either, scientists in RL have created temps of 10 million Kelvin in laboratories. Also, when he heats up Doom, Sue's force field does not completely enclose Johnny's attack but instead forms a cylinder with an open top. If Johnny had gone SN as Reed feared that would ignite the atmosphere then the atmosphere immediately above Johnny would have been ignited along with melted buildings and a gaping hole in the ozone layer I suspect. But none of those things happened so it is safe to say Johnny never reached or, based on Sue's 4000 kelvin is dangerous comment, never even began to approach a SN's temperature. He just had Doom's skin red hot. And I am quite sure ferric metals would liquefy instantly when exposed to millions of degrees.
Originally posted by TheGrat1
Comparing Thing's blunt fists to an anti tank missile is a mistake. One is basically a brick the other is a projectile designed to pierce armor and explode inside it.1. Melting point has no discernible correlation to density in this instance, or did they happen to identify what material/element Doom's skin was or was closest to in the movie?
2. Johnny's "supernova" is just a fancy name for the attack. I believe Johnny got to 4000 kelvin when Sue said he was close to going supernova. However, when comparing that to an actual supernova she is off by millions of kelvin, not even close. It's not terribly impressive for a superhero either, scientists in RL have created temps of 10 million Kelvin in laboratories. Also, when he heats up Doom, Sue's force field does not completely enclose Johnny's attack but instead forms a cylinder with an open top. If Johnny had gone SN as Reed feared that would ignite the atmosphere then the atmosphere immediately above Johnny would have been ignited along with melted buildings and a gaping hole in the ozone layer I suspect. But none of those things happened so it is safe to say Johnny never reached or, based on Sue's 4000 kelvin is dangerous comment, never even began to approach a SN's temperature. He just had Doom's skin red hot. And I am quite sure ferric metals would liquefy instantly when exposed to millions of degrees.
Considering Tony's tank buster's best feat is destroying a tank I think Doom can tank it just fine. And his Thing-level strength will be enough to destroy the armor.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Considering Tony's tank buster's best feat is destroying a tank I think Doom can tank it just fine. And his Thing-level strength will be enough to destroy the armor.
Originally posted by TheGrat1
He may be able to dent and crumple it but can he pierce it in one hit? That is the key component to Tony's missile. That's how HEAT (high-explosive anti-tank) rounds work. They create a small opening in armor and eject their payload inside killing anything that breathes.
The real question is: Is Doom's skin>than a tank's? Plus he could shoot Doom in the eye and i'm sure that's just as gooey as the next guy's.
Edit: That armor has tanked serious damage before. It will only take one or two hits before Stark realizes he can just keep his distance. In that scenario all Doom can do is amp him.
If Doom gets a hold of Stark it's already over.
Originally posted by PsychotronReal Supernovas are almost 100 billion Kelvin (hotter than Sun's core) , they destroy planets, what happened in the movie isn't even near supernovas , I think nearest temperature to that in cosmos is temperature of the surface of sun , I'm pretty sure that Tony's Missiles will hurt him, he has other options too like Tri-beam.
Are you serious? You think Stark's puny missile is going to hurt a guy who can go toe to toe with the Thing and tank supernova heat?
Originally posted by DrDeadpool
Real Supernovas are almost 100 billion Kelvin (hotter than Sun's core) , they destroy planets, what happened in the movie isn't even near supernovas , I think nearest temperature to that in cosmos is temperature of the surface of sun , I'm pretty sure that Tony's Missiles will hurt him, he has other options too like Tri-beam.
Obviously I meant Johnny's Supernova, not a real one. If Doom can tank shots from the Thing then I'm sure he can take a lot of what Stark can dish out.