Originally posted by Q99
We know Kas'im can handle his speed, he did handle his speed.Which is something of an argument against Bane being this blitz-almost-all combatant- a number of foes from the Battle of Ruusian era were able to contest him in saber (losing due to skill or force or similar, not pure speed), and that is by no means the strongest era around.
It is arguably the most impressive era actually bro. And he would have blitzed both Farfalla and Raskta if they hadn't been under the effects of BM. Kas'im was extremely powerful and skilled, and that was all the way back in PoD. Meanwhile Zannah is one of the rare few who is even more powerful than Bane.
Krayt didn't even blitz those IKs and they don't hold a candle to Farfalla or Raskta or even Sarro who were among the most powerful Jedi of that era.
Originally posted by Q99
We know Kas'im can handle his speed, he did handle his speed.Which is something of an argument against Bane being this blitz-almost-all combatant- a number of foes from the Battle of Ruusian era were able to contest him in saber (losing due to skill or force or similar, not pure speed), and that is by no means the strongest era around.
I believe even Bane couldn't see Kas'im's attacks clearly, and Bane was beating Kas'im at that point. I'd imagine it was more severe the other way around. As Astor said, they relied upon precog/skill.
Originally posted by carthage
Not really, no. Krayt's blitzing of knights is more impressive, and at the beginning of DOE he even said he was marginally slower due to the wearing of the Orbalisk armor. This is admitted. Krayt is faster.
DOE was actually his highest point of speed shown in the trilogy.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And how good were those Knights?
One was the Emperor's cousin (i.e. a descendant of Jaina Solo) and leader of the bodyguard, the other three were hand-picked for the task.
Their plan, before facing Krayt, was to fight their way out of the room-full-of-sith (and if possible, kill Krayt), and Roan Fel, no chump or fool, judged they had a chance of this.
Additionally, we have seen the level at which a IK is considered a full Knight, and one has to be solid before someone's promoted past initial- almost every IK we see fights at Jedi/Sith Master level.
Nephthys
I believe even Bane couldn't see Kas'im's attacks clearly, and Bane was beating Kas'im at that point. I'd imagine it was more severe the other way around. As Astor said, they relied upon precog/skill.
True enough, which still doesn't speak to blitzing here.
Astor
It is arguably the most impressive era actually bro.
Not even Bane felt so!
And he would have blitzed both Farfalla and Raskta if they hadn't been under the effects of BM.
While he'd have won more solidly, I seriously doubt that.
Krayt didn't even blitz those IKs
He killed several of them without looking as soon as they got in arm's reach.
I'm not sure what else you'd call it.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Bane says he's marginally slower, but his speed in DOE is more impressive than the other two novels, which leads me to believe his speed peak was a couple of years before DOE.DOE was actually his highest point of speed shown in the trilogy.
Originally posted by Q99
One was the Emperor's cousin (i.e. a descendant of Jaina Solo)
You're reaching here and I think you know it. Roan simply refers to him as "cousin" but you really can't prove that it was a genuine blood relative from that alone, as it might just be a way that the IK speak to each other, much like how two comrades might refer to themselves as "brothers", but not actually be actual brothers.
Plus if he really were a descendant of Anakin I'd imagine they'd show him a little more respect than having him go out like a chump. Plus he may have just been a cousin but not one that was linked to the Skywalker line.
and leader of the bodyguard, the other three were hand-picked for the task.Their plan, before facing Krayt, was to fight their way out of the room-full-of-sith (and if possible, kill Krayt), and Roan Fel, no chump or fool, judged they had a chance of this.
Additionally, we have seen the level at which a IK is considered a full Knight, and one has to be solid before someone's promoted past initial- almost every IK we see fights at Jedi/Sith Master level.
True enough, which still doesn't speak to blitzing here.
You don't have to blitz someone to have an overwhelming speed advantage over someone. I wouldn't argue that Bane would blitz Krayt, but I would argue that he would be able to overwhelm him with his speed and be all over him.
Not even Bane felt so!
Even Bane? Bane was their harshest critic. But Bane's main criticism wasn't about their combat prowess but rather their methodology, i.e. thinking that the Sith could destroy the Jedi via sheer warfare, and not through deception and trickery etc.
The fact is they were so good at combat prowess because of their war-centric approach, and that is what Bane was critical of for the most part.
While he'd have won more solidly, I seriously doubt that.
lol, no I mean it's actually stated in the novel.
He killed several of them without looking as soon as they got in arm's reach.I'm not sure what else you'd call it.
Blitzing would be one shotting them before they can react, Krayt simply overwhelmed them with speed, as several exchanges were made. Impressive but I wouldn't put those IK on the level of someone like Sirak, who Bane actually blitzed as far back as midway through PoD.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Agreed. Bane wouldn't blitz Krayt. He may be faster, but not very much imo.
Why would you argue not very much? Krayt really doesn't have any real quantifiable speed feats, whereas Bane has the best one ever, and numerous other great ones. And he's demonstrated dazzling speed over people as powerful as Zannah.