Originally posted by red8
Sorry but some of the worst Jedi of all time would have to be (incomplete list):Ajuntu Pall
Exar Kun
Revan
Malak
Dooku
Anakin
KraytAs I said before in a similar thread, if you become a Sith Lord, then you kind of missed the point of all that Jedi training.
True, but technically Jedi who become Sith aren't just terrible Jedi, they aren't even Jedi anymore. Personally I feel this thread is more about those who are still technically part of the Order but are just really bad at it (just my opinion of course).
Originally posted by red8
Revan
Malak
To be fair they didn't so much fall as Tenebrae put a mind-whammy on them.
Well, Qui-Gon solely in context of TPM is pretty terrible, but he has some EU stuff to support him, so maybe he gets a pass. The same can be said for any PT Jedi, really. Without the surrounding EU to hold it together, their actions in the films make them seem like they should have trouble breathing, let alone swinging a glowstick around and leading an army.
Anyway, Pong Krell. Those episodes seem really popular for some reason, but his character was just so obviously wrong for a Jedi that it boggles the mind that this guy ended up a master. His attitudes are so obviously not Jedi that someone on the council should have stepped back and thought, "Wait, this guy is a colossal tool." He's stated to have high casualties in his war efforts, and I find it hard to believe that even the PT-era council, in all their short-sightedness, would be okay with someone with such a causal disregard for the lives of his own troops.
Not the worst, maybe, but definitely my least favorite. (Or up there, in any case.)
Originally posted by A Terrible Rodpong krell took on the entire 501st Legion and 212th attack battalion the best legions in the GAR had it not been for Rex's planning and the sarlaac thing all of the troopers there would have died
Well, Qui-Gon solely in context of TPM is pretty terrible, but he has some EU stuff to support him, so maybe he gets a pass. The same can be said for any PT Jedi, really. Without the surrounding EU to hold it together, their actions in the films make them seem like they should have trouble breathing, let alone swinging a glowstick around and leading an army.Anyway, Pong Krell. Those episodes seem really popular for some reason, but his character was just so obviously wrong for a Jedi that it boggles the mind that this guy ended up a master. His attitudes are so obviously not Jedi that someone on the council should have stepped back and thought, "Wait, this guy is a colossal tool." He's stated to have high casualties in his war efforts, and I find it hard to believe that even the PT-era council, in all their short-sightedness, would be okay with someone with such a causal disregard for the lives of his own troops.
Not the worst, maybe, but definitely my least favorite. (Or up there, in any case.)
I never even mentioned his combat prowess, just his obviously not-Jedi mentality. Worst Jedi, not weakest.
Also, I don't consider a force-user defeating non-force-users in a straight fight to be an achievement. Those guys weren't even using any advanced anti-Jedi tactics. They were just shooting at him (badly, I might add). No shit that will end in his favor.
Cade was kinda crappy for quite some time.
He was near completion of his Padawan training when Ossus happened. He then became a pirate, then bounty hunter. He even turned in a fellow Jedi to the sith (though he changed his mind and tried to save the Jedi in question). He had little problem with using the dark side.... a lot, and it bit him in the butt, a lot. Even when fighting the Sith, a lot, he remained uncommitted, and only in the end did he decide to fully embrace the light side.
Originally posted by A Terrible Rodwhat about a random jedi killing boba fett whould that not be a achievement?
I never even mentioned his combat prowess, just his obviously not-Jedi mentality. Worst Jedi, not weakest.Also, I don't consider a force-user defeating non-force-users in a straight fight to be an achievement. Those guys weren't even using any advanced anti-Jedi tactics. They were just shooting at him (badly, I might add). No shit that will end in his favor.
Originally posted by PTforthewin
pong krell took on the entire 501st Legion and 212th attack battalion the best legions in the GAR had it not been for Rex's planning and the sarlaac thing all of the troopers there would have died
And this is relevant, how?
Being a good fighter does not make one a good Jedi.
Originally posted by Q99
Cade was kinda crappy for quite some time.He was near completion of his Padawan training when Ossus happened. He then became a pirate, then bounty hunter. He even turned in a fellow Jedi to the sith (though he changed his mind and tried to save the Jedi in question). He had little problem with using the dark side.... a lot, and it bit him in the butt, a lot. Even when fighting the Sith, a lot, he remained uncommitted, and only in the end did he decide to fully embrace the light side.
True but it was awesome when he finally did find his way back to the light.
While he certainly improved, Obi-Wan Kenobi was a pretty lousy Jedi in TPM.
"Why do I sense we've picked up another pathetic lifeform?"
I was appalled when I heard that. This guy is supposed to be a Jedi? Where is his compassion? Jedi are meant to care about and help others, not treat them with contempt and arrogance.
What a complete scumbag.