Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Where was that stated?Lucas confirms in the ROTJ audio commentary that Luke was only half trained and not good enough to take on Vader yet.
The fight this time was far more balanced. Vader discovered that Luke was his match, and, once again, the Sith Lord found his thoughts straying to an alliance between them against the Emperor.
Luke had indeed grown powerful since Bespin, and he was an equal match for his father.
- Taken from The Official Star Wars Fact File #111
But you're right, what Lucas says is the highest level of canon.
Tyranus destroys Luke.
We're talking about someone who fights Grievous, Ventress, Opress, Anakin, and Kenobi and beats all of them(with the exception of Anakin taking considerable effort) casually.
Not to mention he survives encounters with Yoda and Windu.
ROTJ Luke is strong, sure, but Vader was clearly conflicted and holding back. Dooku won't be at all. Supreme swordsmanship skills and top 5 Force mastery for his era, experience second to only Yoda, and knowledge of both Jedi and Sith teachings ensure a swift victory. This is a joke.
Don't try the "Djem So" over powering argument because Tyranus had countless duels with Anakin, whom was clearly better than Luke up until that point in everything.
It's not borderline. It is outright spite.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Waiting for the quote.
I've given my ROTJ to someone, but check it yourself. It's in the audio commentary on the scene where Luke visits Yoda. Lucas says something to the effect off, "He's only half trained and not fully equipped to take on Vader."
And I know this isn't TCW, but Dave Filoni is of the opinion that any Jedi Council member would hand ROTJ Luke his ass. Consider that Filoni has had daily discussions with Lucas on SW for the last 6 years.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It's not borderline. It is outright spite.I've given my ROTJ to someone, but check it yourself. It's in the audio commentary on the scene where Luke visits Yoda. Lucas says something to the effect off, "He's only half trained and not fully equipped to take on Vader."
And I know this isn't TCW, but Dave Filoni is of the opinion that any Jedi Council member would hand ROTJ Luke his ass. Consider that Filoni has had daily discussions with Lucas on SW for the last 6 years.
Coleman Trebor = Jedi Council Master.
Jango Fett can now kill RotJ Luke Skywalker.
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