Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Revan dodging hordes of blaster-bolts via speed and agility:"Enemy blasterfire poured down, forcing him to duck, dodge, and weave, but none of the bolts found a mark."
―Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan
How many shooters were present? (I'm guessing this was during that part with the Mandalorians, so it should have been specified.)
Not really...
Except for the fact than he creat multiple dark side enxus in the purpuse to converte hundreds of Jedi XD....
But that's an other story...
I'm more with canon stuff now.. More reliable.
Did you know than Revan use force knowledge + http://www.starwars-holonet.com/encyclopedie/technologie-mechu-deru.html
Mecu-deru a sith abilities based on the analys of technology to absorb the entire Rakattas technology? His holocron, his clothes etcs... There on the website an article named "Revan new sith or new Rakattas?" that talk about it..
In fact a part if the intrigue of KotOR 3 was that Revan was with the ressources of the true sith empire building a new star forge on Dromuun Kaas XD..
Ho gosh I wish than KotOR 3 would came out...
And there is a lot of canon interessting thing on Revan on this website better tel him the truth... He'd better read it...
Well you should read it....
If your taking about this :
http://assiste.free.fr/kotor_2/personnage_revan.html
This is canon.
If you are talking about Holonet.
Holonet = Wookipedia in more reliable... Way more reliable....
But like wookipedia have some mistakes...
But you can use translators.. And by the way The Idea for KotOR 3 was Revan coming back 300 hundred years after doing the antogonist like he did in 3.0.. But in much better. Revan the emperor own son taking dow Vitate forever and take control of the true sith empire. Yhea Revan came from the unknow region, he have sith blood this is a bit obvious that's why the foundry scenario look weird to me.... Agen Kae was in fact an infiltrator from the true sith empire. That's why she have unorthodoxe teaching. She found him in the unknow region "just by accident" do you remember?
The revelation about Revan father was a refernce to luke skywalker and it was the big mother ****ing twist of KotOR 3.
And the foundry in ToR was inspired by the original idea of Revan building a star forge...
There is an EN version of holonet. I don't remember where you can find it. But it is less coplete than the FR version the FR version is already less complete than wookipedia in term of numbers of articles...
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's all fanfiction, lol. And no, that's not the plot for KotOR 3.
This wasn't decisive....
It was back in 2010 ToR wasn't even launched !
This website confirm it...
http://assiste.free.fr/kotor_2/personnage_revan.html
They also confirm than this is at the end of Revan life than Revan create his Holocron not in the Jedi civil war the holocron wich get dammage badly (I don't know because this is Rakatas tech the same than the star forge of the star map an auto regenerative material....) contain every technic and ritual thats exist in the force + some others notes.
Revan cannot have record this during the Jedi civil war Revan is at his apogy, it is not the end of his life, reason N°2 he don't have the time war/teaching keep him busy....
So that's mean than there is an other Darth Revan era after KotOR 2.
Spéculations sur un Kotor 3
Quelle sera le parcours de Revan après Kotor 2 ? Quelle est sa vraie personnalité ?
Kreia
Revan était le pouvoir. C'était comme regarder le coeur même de la Force. On pouvait alors y voir, gravé dans son âme, le Jedi qu'il ferait périr.
Cette phrase laisse entendre que le côté Lumineux de Revan sera submergé, détruit par son côté obscur. L'acte criminel du Conseil, lui forgeant un profil Lumineux de force, ne résistera pas au retour de Revan dans l'Empire, en 3951 BBY, alors que Kotor 2 se déroule.
Il est probable qu'il devienne Seigneur Noir des Vrais Siths et affronte l'Exilée, aussi puissante que lui, voire plus, qui, elle, est résolument ancrée côté Lumineux et utilise des techniques unifiées de la Force que Kreia lui a enseignées ou qu'elle a découvert spontanément. L'Exilée sera probablement vainqueur (après un temps où, si l'on en croit la vision du futur dans le tombeau secret de Ludo Kressh, elle bascule elle aussi du côté Obscur avant de se ressaisir).
Est-ce que la vision du futur, dans le tombeau secret de Ludo Kressh, sur Korriban, serait exacte ?
Revan a totalement basculé du côté Obscur et est devenu le Seigneur Noir des "Vrais Siths".
L'Exilée va fléchir un moment, tant qu'elle sera seule dans l'Empire, puis elle va se ressaisir (seule ou avec l'aide de l'un ou l'autre de ses compagnons de Kotor 2 - le très secret et taciturne Bao-Dur, prêt au sacrifice, pourrait trouver sa place et s'épanouir ici, comme Atton. Elle pourrait aussi tuer l'un ou plusieurs de ses compagnons de Kotor 2 venus lui prêter main forte, ce qui provoquerait son retour du côté lumineux etc. ... toutes les spéculations sont permises)
Revan est vaincu par l'Exilée qui reçoit probablement de l'aide de tous ceux qui sont sensibles à la Force (l'un des compagnons de l'Exilée, à la fin de Kotor 2, devait rester dans la République pour indiquer le chemin à tous ceux pouvaient aider l'Exilée).
En 3951 BBY, personne n'a le temps de former de nouveaux Jedi (il faut plusieurs années d'apprentissage pour cela). Il y a donc de fortes chances pour que plusieurs des compagnons de l'Exilée se retrouvent à ses côtés et que Kotor 3 ne se passe pas trop longtemps après Kotor 2 - sans doute entre 5 et 8 ans après Kotor 2.
Quid de Mandalore, qui obéit aux ordres de Revan, est fidèle à ses allégeances mais aussi à ses amitiés ? Il a regroupé les clans Mandaloriens ! Va t'il prendre le parti de Revan ou de l'Exilée ?
Quid d'Onasi et des armées républicaines ?
Quid des dizaines de milliers de HK-50 (il y avait de nombreuses usines Hk-50 comme celle de Télos), tous avec un centre du comportement désormais aligné sur celui de HK-47, le "patriarche" ?
Compte tenu de ce que l'on commence à savoir de TOR, qui n'est pas encore sorti à la date d'écriture de ces lignes, il n'est pas impossible qu'à sa mort, l'esprit de Revan cherche à survivre et occupe le corps de l'Empereur car il semble que l'Empereur, 300 ans après Kotor 2, ait des conduites contradictoires qui pourraient être dues à la cohabitation antagoniste des deux esprits dans le même corps.
Kotor 3 existera et sera absolument épique et spectaculaire, sur nos machines multi-cores et nos nouvelles cartes graphiques ! Euuuhhh... c'est possible sur du bi-écrans 2560 * 1600 en 3D avec les adversaires qui sortent, l'un de l'écran de gauche, l'autre de l'écran de droite, pour s'affronter au milieu, sur mon bureau (ne pas rayer le verni, s'il vous plaît !) ?
Pour appuyer la théorie selon laquelle Revan basculera à nouveau du côté Obscur et agira en Seigneur Noir des "Vrais Siths", il y a, tout simplement, son holocron, rédigé à la fin de sa vie ("Mon temps est fini..."😉. Il est le Seigneur Noir des Siths lorsqu'il enregistre cet holocron, à la fin de sa vie (et vers la fin de Kotor 3).
L'Empire mettra 300 ans à s'en remettre et déferler sur la République.
Kotor 3 nous racontera probablement cela, après le lancement de TOR.
Speculation about Kotor 3
What will be the path of Revan after Kotor 2? What is his true personality?
Kreia
Revan was power. It was like watching the very heart of the Force. So we could see engraved in his soul, he would destroy the Jedi.
This phrase suggests that the bright side of Revan will be submerged, destroyed by his dark side. The crime of the Council, forging him a profile Bright force will not withstand the return of Revan in the Empire, in 3951 BBY, while Kotor 2 unfolds.
It is likely to become the Sith Lord Black True and faces the Exile, as powerful as him, or even more, which itself is firmly rooted Bright side and uses the Force unified techniques that Kreia has taught him or that it discovered spontaneously. The Exiled will likely winner (after a time when, if we are to believe the vision of the future in the secret tomb of Ludo Kressh, it also switches the Dark side before recovering).
Is the vision of the future, in the secret tomb of Ludo Kressh on Korriban, would be correct?
Revan has totally rocked the Dark Side and became the Lord of the Black "True Sith."
The Exiled will falter for a moment, as she will be alone in the Empire, then she will recover (alone or with the help of one or other of his fellow Kotor 2 - the secretive and taciturn Bao-Dur, ready to sacrifice, might fit and thrive here, as Atton. it could also kill one or more of his fellow Kotor 2 come lend a hand, causing his return side light etc ... all speculations are allowed)
Revan is defeated by the Exile probably gets help all those who are sensitive to the Force (one of the companions of the Exile, at the end of Kotor 2, was to remain in the Republic to show the way anyone could help the Exile).
In 3951 BBY, no one has time to train new Jedi (it takes several years of training for this). So there is a good chance that many of the companions of the Exile can be found at his side and Kotor 3 does not go too long after Kotor 2 - probably between 5 and 8 years after Kotor 2.
What of Mandalore, which obeys the orders of Revan is true to his allegiance but to his friendships? It brought together the Mandalorians clans! Is he going to side with Revan or the Exile?
What about Onasi and republican armies?
What about the tens of thousands of HK-50 (there were many Hk-50 plants such as Telos), all with a center behavior now aligned to HK-47, the "patriarch"?
Given that we begin to know TOR, which is not yet released to the time of writing these lines, it is not impossible that at his death, the spirit of trying to Revan survive and occupies the body of the Emperor because it seems that the Emperor, 300 years after Kotor 2 is contradictory behavior that might be due to the antagonistic coexistence of two spirits in the body.
Kotor 3 will exist and will be absolutely epic and dramatic, our multi-core machines and our new graphics cards! Euuuhhh ... it's possible on dual-display 2560 * 1600 in 3D with opponents coming out, one of the left screen, the other from the right screen, to compete in the middle on my desk (not to scratch the painted, please!)?
To support the theory that Revan will switch back to the Dark side and act Lord Black of "True Sith", there simply his holocron, written at the end of his life ("My time is over ... "😉. He is Lord Black of the Sith holocron when recording this at the end of his life (and by the end of Kotor 3).
The Empire will 300 years to recover and wash over the Republic.
Kotor 3 probably tell us that, after the launch of TOR.
There is form of alter enivironement that can control the sun light and summon fire it is use by the Rakattas...
The ancien still use this technic to defend themself against Dark Rakattas.. It have been confirmed in KotOR 1.
Revan have demonstrated hidg devlopped technic of alter environement, rhat can control the energy within the ground the sky etc to pull up lightnings...
He have a very advanced knowledge and compression on what the rakattas were?
The unique in FR version confirm the use of Revan of "Elementary magic".
Originally posted by Revanchiste
This wasn't decisive....It was back in 2010 ToR wasn't even launched !
This website confirm it...
http://assiste.free.fr/kotor_2/personnage_revan.html
You keep posting this French fan site
What citations does it have?
Where did it's information originate from?
It's sure as hell not going to originate in French given most official content for the verse has been produced in English
It's great that this fan fiction exists, I imagine the ****er that came up with the content had a nice imagination
If you want to prove it's more than fan fiction though?
Actually post a citation to an official resource and not some fan site
Granted, I feel like I'm giving you too much credit in giving you the benefit of the doubt of being more than just a bored foreign troll, but I'll humor the idea you legitimately believe what you preach :hmm
What citations does it have?
Well every quote from the game.
Well they were coming from starwarunderworld..
The same guy that have confirm the face of the main vilan of the episode VII way before the trailer :
http://www.starwars-holonet.com/news/2014/20141029-rumeur-mechant-1.jpg
They had contact with the uathor himself.
They don't say yhea it's like that... They take the quote and explain everythings..
This not fan fiction fan fiction is 3.0 THIS is fan fiction...
They are really well sourced....
I'm serious this website is really reliable....
They admit that founding information on Darth Revan is really hard.... There main source KotOR is made tomake the player search really dig in deeply to find the information that he seek...
In fact they make a deep analyse of what really happen...
That's all..
Here there sources :
Sources utilisées
Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République (jeu vidéo)
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - Les Seigneurs Siths (jeu video)
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - Il y a bien longtemps
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - Ultime recours
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - Au coeur de la peur
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - L'invasion de Taris
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - Sans pitiée
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - Ambitions contrariées
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - La destructrice
"Chevaliers de l'Ancienne République" - Demon
La Légende des Jedi - L'Age d'or des Sith
La Légende des Jedi - La chette des Sith
La Légende des Jedi - Le sacre de Freedon Nadd
La Légende des Jedi - Les Seigneurs des Sith
La Légende des Jedi - La guerre des Sith
La Légende des Jedi - Rédemption
Wookieepedia (beaucoup trop d'erreurs dans cette ressource)
Star Wars TimeLine de Nathan P. Butler (un pavé de 1384 pages !)
TimeLine de Maître Gnost-Dural
Nothing too silly...
I have too had than they found wookipédia not really reliable....
This website is pointing evidence than you have missed during the game....
That's it no fan fiction at all... If you dare me to tell me than an unrealeash official work is fan fiction... This was KotOR 3...
And why it should 3.0 non canon.... Because we really need a new Darth Revan era to have a coherent story ! Why? Bane and Revan holocron ! Yhea because Bane discovering Revan Holocron make no sens....
"I am Darth Revan, Dark Lord of the Sith.
Those who use the dark side are also bound to serve it. To understand this is to understand the underlying of the Sith.
The dark side offers power for power's sake. You must crave it. Covet it. You must seek power above all else, with no reservation or hesitation.
The Force will change you. Il will transform you. Some fear this change. The teachings of the Jedi are focused on fighting and controlling this transformation. That is why those who serve the light are limited in what they accomplish.
True power can come only to those who embrace the transformation. There can be no compromise. Mercy, compassion, loyalty: all these things will prevent you from claiming what is rightfully yours. Those who follow the dark side must cast aside these conceits. Those who do not—those who try to walk the path of moderation—will fail, dragged down by their own weakness.
Those who accept the power of the dark side must also accept the challenge of holding on to it. By its very nature, the dark side invites rivalry and strife. This is the greatest strength of the Sith; it culls the weak from our order. Yet this rivalry can also be our greatest weakness. The strong must be careful lest they be overwhelmed by the ambitions of those beneath them working in concert. Any master who instructs more than one apprentice in the ways of the dark side is a fool. In time, the apprentices will unite their strength and overthrow the Master. It is inevitable. Axiomatic. That is why each Master must have only one student.
This is also the reason there can only be one Dark Lord. The Sith must be ruled by a single leader: the very embodiment of the strength and power of the dark side. If the leader grows weak, another must rise to seize the mantle. The strong rule; the weak are meant to serve. This is the way it must be.
My time here is ended. Take what I have taught you and use it well."
Well this is Darth Revan and he is near his death...
I translate only for myself... So I'm using google translation for this one because I'm too lazy for a text of this size :
Problem posed by the Holocron of Darth Revan where it says Black Lord of the Sith
The Holocron of Darth Revan, which is found by Darth Bane almost 3000 years later (in 1000 BBY) on Lehon (Rakata Prime - the planet close to the Star Forge), very weak and largely degraded portion contains some lessons Revan that residual resources of the supply system of the holocron yet come to be projected. It includes an archive of the Sith and customs, whose magical rituals (and probably the Rakata secrets he could find), the secrets of Mental Bombe (Bomb Phsychique) and the teachings of Darth Revan. Among others, this record begins with this sentence: "I am Darth Revan, Dark Lord of the Sith" and ends with "My time here ends."
This is not a problem because without a priori this holocron is a will that could not be saved at the very end of his life. It is hard to believe it was recorded at the time when it was black Lord "New Sith" because:
It is far from being "at the end of his time"
He has other fish to fry, in full Mandalorian War of recording a holocron
It certainly has not yet established the "rule of two" since it is rather concerned raliement urgently hundreds or thousands of Jedi
In less than four years, he founded a gigantic Sith Empire, covering more than a third of the Galaxy, whose Sith Empire "True Sith", which involves constant travel and daily conquests and the fact that is indeed the Lord Black of the "True Sith" and not, "only" the Lord Black of the only "New Sith." This leaves little time to make a holocron, save archives and go hide this from the other end of the Galaxy
It was not at all the time to train them and therefore no reason to tell them, on his deathbed: "Take what I have taught you and made good use of it."
He is captured by surprise and the Jedi Bastila Shan, which does not leave either, the time to record a holocron.
"New Sith" or "New Rakata"?
It is observed that Revan hide his holocron found a place among the Rakata (the area is virtually indexed by the galactic maps and behind a spatial anomaly warps space, making hyperspace routes to random Lehon). Why hide a holocron and make it so that its content found enjoined to follow his teaching?
It is said that the Holocron of Darth Revan did not have the usual pyramidal Sith holocrons but had the form of the "Temple of the ancient Rakata" on Lehon (Rakata Prime).
On the other hand, it was after his first crossing of the Star Forge that it is in the Republican area with the desire to make his own republic and to found an empire. Finally, its equipment is fully a Rakata equipment. Darth Revan, who seems to take the title of "Darth" at that time, would it be more influenced by the dark spirit Rakata by Sith mind? "New Sith" would they "New Rakata"?
A sith lord fighting the eveil within the prext of creating his own empire in order to keep the true sith secret allow to use 40% of the true empire ground forces, him to keep distance from vitiate in his report he was wrecking the republic destroying everythings, in reality he was helping the republic to build a war economy, and was carefully taking the defence instalation while make minimal civilians causalties.
Remember Gnost dural timeline about the problem of a democratic governement? Revan totaly knew it because he have been in contact with the great sith emperor vitiate. So his decision explain a lot and would have taken the control of the republic if Malak never betrayed him.. He have also planned to build a star forge at malachor V...
He also stabilise the republic, by eliminating some disturbing members.... This an echani ambassador and then he kill Yusanis : (the husband of his old secret master Aren Kae now Darth Traya) in a Kagath duel with a small portion of his fleet and board his ship an kill him in a regular duel.... He left Darth Traya at malachor V before creating his own empire. Traya disagree he ragdoll her an put her K.O under 3 second, he spar her by respect for his previous master.
Revan knew the existance of Malachor V since the begining of the mandalorian war he studdy at the trayus academmy 1 years before to be join by his master Aren Kae who get exile for having a daughter with Yusanis (in fact the council know this since 10 years but she play the bouc emissaire for Revan actions...)
They studdy the unlimitted field of knowledge offer by the 500 sith holocron for 2 years more. So he studdy at Malachor for 3 years.
When he tracked the mandalorian to Domund Kaas Vitiate after kicking them (Revan and Malak) with a mega giga force storm and corrupting their mind, vitiate teached to Revan via the force everything he could teach in only one minute... He also increase his mental barriers. That's why when the council capture him they had to use the dark side to reprogram his mind... Even if he was amnesic....
Strangly enough Revan recover quicly from the brain washing, he also return to malachor V and Traya take him as an apprentice (that was before he ragdoll her okay? Do you follow me?) she was glad than Revan finaly return to her in the past she was supplicating him to abandon his lubby to save the republic etc....
Revan while cherching the star map, land on Korriban he found the exar kun apprentice they quicly project to build an other sith academmy here.
So Revan discover many holocron but he let them in place, he found Tulak hord holocron, where Tulak hord record everythings about his deadly dueling technics....
I've also found than Darth Revan was sapring with Malak regulary and he was using HK-47 to keep malak angry (or rather insane Malak was the original meat-bag).. Because he was testing Malak skill to be sure to keep the upper advantage, Malak was a blizting user of form VII cappble of quicly finding the adversary weaknesse capble of dodging any attacks... Th mind preset used by Malak was a pain in the ass for Revan preco fortunatly Revan was a complete master at controlling his own emotions, using them casting them. So he let the force flow his mind leading him where he want to be lead. Instead of relying on a cold an cool tactical mind...
He also can use his own emotions or surface tough to hide his real toughs and real goals.
He also on Lehon or Rakattas prime slain armies of Rakattas warriors and rancors and other war beast etc... With alter environement (Rakattas called it elementary magic because they didn't know what it really was) he was controlling fire, air, earth, and even summoning lightning from the sky.
