Originally posted by roughrider
Why does movie Thor have to put up with these threads pitting him against upper tier street levelers? Movie Spider Man, Wolverine, Deadpool...he defeats them, okay?! This is a pattern of disrespect, going on here.
I wouldn't say its disrespect because Thor has had an underwhelming and inconsistent onscreen portrayal.
Originally posted by PsychotronDominated by the Hulk? He rocked the holy hell out of Hulk for almost the entire fight and then got thrown around a bit at the end. The Hulk was almost KOed after one swing of the hammer. I don't get why people here like to act like Hulk won that fight. He didn't.
He got dominated by Hulk, Kurse absolutely ravaged his ass, had to hide from bullets, even Loki fought him for a brief time.
Kurse SHOULD ravage him. He's four times stronger than Thor in the comics, and would ravage the hell out of any Avenger (except for maybe Strange or reality bending Scarlet Witch). If he follows his comic version someone on power levels, he is too much for any hero we've seen so far.
With Loki, I always got the impression he held back. He could have rained lightning or done an area attack via hammer but I don't think he ever really wanted to hurt Loki.
Thor did the most solo damage during the big battle at the end of Avengers too (with the exception of the Nuke that Iron Man intercepted). He's been shown to be the Avengers biggest power house at this point. He really shouldn't be put in battles with street level heroes.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Are you? Spider-man stopped a train. He overpowered it's engines going at full speed and it's kinetic energy. Iron Man has nothing on that.
What? I don't know if you have a different version of the film, but he didn't do that through pure strength in the one I watched.
He didn't just jump in front of the train and stop it. He tried doing that and was completely unable to do so. He wrecked his feet after trying for a few seconds, and didn't slow the train down at all LOL. He then shot shit loads of webbing to buildings on either side, attached to him on the front of the train, which eventually began to slow the train down (and KO him).
If anything that talks to the strength of his webbing.
IM moving those Hellicarrier turbines are greater than anything SM has done. Also lifting a car with a much weaker power source on only 20% power shows his strength is well above Spidey's. As does the fact that he kicked back Thor, and easily kicked a car out of harm's way in IM2.
That's strength. Maguire's Spidey durability is a joke next to IM's so let's not even go there.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
What? I don't know if you have a different version of the film, but he didn't do that through pure strength in the one I watched.He didn't just jump in front of the train and stop it. He tried doing that and was completely unable to do so. He wrecked his feet after trying for a few seconds, and didn't slow the train down at all LOL. He then shot shit loads of webbing to buildings on either side, attached to him on the front of the train, which eventually began to slow the train down (and KO him).
If anything that talks to the strength of his webbing.
IM moving those Hellicarrier turbines are greater than anything SM has done. Also lifting a car with a much weaker power source on only 20% power shows his strength is well above Spidey's. As does the fact that he kicked back Thor, and easily kicked a car out of harm's way in IM2.
That's strength. Maguire's Spidey durability is a joke next to IM's so let's not even go there.
Are you forgetting that Spider-man had to hold the webbing? That's grip strength, which is always weaker than back, leg, and chest strength.
Durability I give to Iron Man, but strength belongs to the spider.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Dominated by the Hulk? He rocked the holy hell out of Hulk for almost the entire fight and then got thrown around a bit at the end. The Hulk was almost KOed after one swing of the hammer. I don't get why people here like to act like Hulk won that fight. He didn't.Kurse SHOULD ravage him. He's four times stronger than Thor in the comics, and would ravage the hell out of any Avenger (except for maybe Strange or reality bending Scarlet Witch). If he follows his comic version someone on power levels, he is too much for any hero we've seen so far.
With Loki, I always got the impression he held back. He could have rained lightning or done an area attack via hammer but I don't think he ever really wanted to hurt Loki.
Thor did the most solo damage during the big battle at the end of Avengers too (with the exception of the Nuke that Iron Man intercepted). He's been shown to be the Avengers biggest power house at this point. He really shouldn't be put in battles with street level heroes.
You call Thor landing one good hit with Mjolnir almost koing the Hulk? Lel. Because that's literally all he did in that fight. Hulk treated him like rag doll. A freshly transformed Hulk, too. If he was fighting Hulk from the end of his fight with Abom he would have been decimated.
I'm willing to bet money Hulk would have won. Movie Thor is weak.
He still effortlessly stabbed him. You can see the difference between Hulk and Thor when Hulk just smashes him without a sweat.
Nah, Thor was really underused, Iron Man and Hulk got better moments.
Originally posted by Psychotron
He got dominated by Hulk,
No he didn't. He was also weakened while fighting Hulk, and not blood-lusted. Hulk was.
Kurse absolutely ravaged his ass,
Kurse would beat any of the Avengers one on one. Easily.
had to hide from bullets,
Even Loki was entirely bullet-proof.
even Loki fought him for a brief time.
Thor also held back.