Originally posted by PsychotronIt is called strategy not hiding.
Yes, he did. Voldo had to hide just like you will.Nah, that sounds like you, Ohio hick.
Nah, you're from Ohio. Buddy, there's no escape, you're redneck. I bet you took your own sister to the prom.
I wouldn't if she wasn't so eager, she says your dad is a limp-dicked excuse of a man.
Ohio doesn't consist entirely of farm lands despite your preposterous pre conceived notions.
Weak insults.
Anyway, Voldemort is a consummate coward. His reputation is pretty much all hype and legend, he depends on his cult of followers to do the bulk of the work, and when people make a concerted effort to try and stop him, he folds.
Palpatine schemed right under the noses of a bunch of superpowered, telepathic warriors for years without anyone the wiser. He played both sides against each other like a Spaghetti Western outlaw, and when he finally got what he wanted, he personally kicked the ass of the strongest Jedi there was, and rendered the potential strongest Force user as his errand boy.
Palp has the bigger balls.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Anyway, Voldemort is a consummate coward. His reputation is pretty much all hype and legend, he depends on his cult of followers to do the bulk of the work, and when people make a concerted effort to try and stop him, he folds.Palpatine schemed right under the noses of a bunch of superpowered, telepathic warriors for years without anyone the wiser. He played both sides against each other like a Spaghetti Western outlaw, and when he finally got what he wanted, he personally kicked the ass of the strongest Jedi there was, and rendered the potential strongest Force user as his errand boy.
Palp has the bigger balls.
2:01-2:07. Palpatine tries fleeing from Yoda from a fair one on one fight. This is an undeniable example of cowardice. Voldemort had followers yes but never fled from a fair fight. Palpatine also hid behind two factions he pitted against each other and his political ties to remain unknown to the general public. He kept from them his true nature and lied.
Windu soundly defeated him and he begged for his life. Not the stuff of bravery that is for sure.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Support this claim. Being at your opponents mercy isn't being in control.
1. Because Palpatine was a stronger Force user than Mace. Unlimited POWAH!
2. Because Mace didn't have the legal authority to arrest the Chancellor. If he tried to, it would only prove Palpatine's point that the Jedi were trying to take over the government.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
1. Because Palpatine was a stronger Force user than Mace. Unlimited POWAH!2. Because Mace didn't have the legal authority to arrest the Chancellor. If he tried to, it would only prove Palpatine's point that the Jedi were trying to take over the government.
1. He said so after Anakin cut off a limb. 😂
Context.
2. He was clever that is for sure. Anakin was weak and let his emotions and fear of change rule over him. Palpatine preyed on his weakness of character and played the dope like a fiddle.
The Jedi weren't trying to take over but they were trying to kill the secret Sith Lord. Context.
Originally posted by quanchi112
2:01-2:07. Palpatine tries fleeing from Yoda from a fair one on one fight. This is an undeniable example of cowardice. Voldemort had followers yes but never fled from a fair fight. Palpatine also hid behind two factions he pitted against each other and his political ties to remain unknown to the general public. He kept from them his true nature and lied.Windu soundly defeated him and he begged for his life. Not the stuff of bravery that is for sure.
Palpatine didn't flee. He made his point and left. After the fight, Yoda admitted that he wasn't powerful enough to fight the Emperor.
Voldemort fled from the Dumbledore fight just before the Aurors arrived. If he's so powerful, couldn't he them ALL on? Palpatine took on four Jedi Master's in one fight and effortlessly killed three of them.
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchHe didn't flee because Yoda blocked his path. The point is Palpatine tried fleeing like a coward.
Palpatine didn't flee. He made his point and left. After the fight, Yoda admitted that he wasn't powerful enough to fight the Emperor.Voldemort fled from the Dumbledore fight just before the Aurors arrived. If he's so powerful, couldn't he them ALL on? Palpatine took on four Jedi Master's in one fight and effortlessly killed three of them.
Voldemort left when they arrived. I have already posted this clip numerous times.
I said a fair fight. Only an idiot or someone arrogant like Vader would try to take on a peer along with multiple others at the same time. Palpatine fled from someone who isn't even tall enough to ride roller coasters. The shame.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1. He said so after Anakin cut off a limb. 😂
Context.2. He was clever that is for sure. Anakin was weak and let his emotions and fear of change rule over him. Palpatine preyed on his weakness of character and played the dope like a fiddle.
The Jedi weren't trying to take over but they were trying to kill the secret Sith Lord. Context.
To quote Ra's Al Ghul, Palpatine didn't want to sacrifice sure footing for a killing stroke. Palpatine figured it would be easier to play possum while he waited for Anakin to show up. He COULD have kept fighting Mace, but he needed to turn Anakin, and making Mace look like he was trying to murder the innocent Chancellor during a time of war, it was the perfect opportunity.
It's a lot harder for SW apologists ever those pieces of s.hit at Disney said that everything outside the movies and cartoons are non-canon, because the ROTS novelization makes it very clear that Palpatine was faking weakness and could have killed Mace even while he was grounded.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't flee because Yoda blocked his path. The point is Palpatine tried fleeing like a coward.Voldemort left when they arrived. I have already posted this clip numerous times.
I said a fair fight. Only an idiot or someone arrogant like Vader would try to take on a peer along with multiple others at the same time. Palpatine fled from someone who isn't even tall enough to ride roller coasters. The shame.
Not really. He knocked Yoda off the platform several stories to the ground. Humiliated, Yoda leaves to go deal with Padme.
Right, but Voldemort's reputation is that of this uber-warlock that nobody can defeat. 99.9% of wizards are terrified of him to the point that even the Minister of Magic can't say his name out loud. Either Voldemort knows that this hype isn't true, or he's a coward.
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchNo, he was disarmed and used Anakin's obsession with Padme to garner help. Mace soundly defeated him.
To quote Ra's Al Ghul, Palpatine didn't want to sacrifice sure footing for a killing stroke. Palpatine figured it would be easier to play possum while he waited for Anakin to show up. He COULD have kept fighting Mace, but he needed to turn Anakin, and making Mace look like he was trying to murder the innocent Chancellor during a time of war, it was the perfect opportunity.It's a lot harder for SW apologists ever those pieces of s.hit at Disney said that everything outside the movies and cartoons are non-canon, because the ROTS novelization makes it very clear that Palpatine was faking weakness and could have killed Mace even while he was grounded.
Lucas has denied this claim that he lost on purpose. He was feigning weakness to get Anakin's sympathy after he was soundly defeated in the duel as it was the only card to play due to his circumstances.
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchPalpatine knocked him off but that doesn't mean anything as to the intro where he tried to leave.
Not really. He knocked Yoda off the platform several stories to the ground. Humiliated, Yoda leaves to go deal with Padme.Right, but Voldemort's reputation is that of this uber-warlock that nobody can defeat. 99.9% of wizards are terrified of him to the point that even the Minister of Magic can't say his name out loud. Either Voldemort knows that this hype isn't true, or he's a coward.
Voldemort is the wizard who dominates all there. That is proof positive that he lived up to the hype. We see him never once blink in the throes of a fair fight unlike Palpatine.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he was disarmed and used Anakin's obsession with Padme to garner help. Mace soundly defeated him.Lucas has denied this claim that he lost on purpose. He was feigning weakness to get Anakin's sympathy after he was soundly defeated in the duel as it was the only card to play due to his circumstances.
Nope. Palpatine was more powerful than Yoda, who was more powerful than Mace.
Lucas thinks that Greedo shot first and that it would be funny if Indiana Jones committed statutory rape on a young Marion.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Nope. Palpatine was more powerful than Yoda, who was more powerful than Mace.Lucas thinks that Greedo shot first and that it would be funny if Indiana Jones committed statutory rape on a young Marion.
Technically, Indy did. She was 14 bro.
Also, Yoda handed Palpatine his ass and effectively lost to gravity.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Palpatine knocked him off but that doesn't mean anything as to the intro where he tried to leave.Voldemort is the wizard who dominates all there. That is proof positive that he lived up to the hype. We see him never once blink in the throes of a fair fight unlike Palpatine.
Yes it does. Palpatine was the first Sith Lord to construct a successful hostile takeover of the Republic in history. Yoda's entire purpose in life was to make sure this DIDN'T happen, and if it did, that the reign was short lived. But he wasn't powerful enough. Palpatine exhausted him, so Yoda retreated.
We never see Voldemort doing anything as remotely as terrifying as he is made out to be. Sure, he's evil to the core, but so are most dictators and cult leaders. Where are the rivers of blood and the bodies piled up everywhere if this guy is the freaking wizard Anti-Christ?
And Voldemort DOES blink. He retreated from a fight that he was losing. And he's a coward too since his arch-enemy is a not particularly impressive seventeen year old boy.
I don't give a left nut over Voldemort. But saying Palpatine overpowered/outdid/etc. Yoda is pretty much not the case. Yoda disarmed Palpatine and had him pretty much where he wanted him. Even when it became a Force spamming contest, Palpatine couldn't handle his own pods being chucked back in his face and lost the Force lightning DBZ beam struggle. The only reason why he fared better isn't because of superior power or skill but he grasped a handrail and had the higher position finally.
In neutral ground, Yoda would carve him up.
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchDue to misdirection and playing the politicians role. Voldemort overtook it by sheer force.
Yes it does. Palpatine was the first Sith Lord to construct a successful hostile takeover of the Republic in history. Yoda's entire purpose in life was to make sure this DIDN'T happen, and if it did, that the reign was short lived. But he wasn't powerful enough. Palpatine exhausted him, so Yoda retreated.We never see Voldemort doing anything as remotely as terrifying as he is made out to be. Sure, he's evil to the core, but so are most dictators and cult leaders. Where are the rivers of blood and the bodies piled up everywhere if this guy is the freaking wizard Anti-Christ?
And Voldemort DOES blink. He retreated from a fight that he was losing. And he's a coward too since his arch-enemy is a not particularly impressive seventeen year old boy.
Palpatine tried to flee so what happened after is a moot point. The blast also hit the both of them and Palpatine held on while Yoda fell. Big whoop.
Incorrect. He was winning but backup arrived. Palpatine begs his opponents as well as tries to flee from fair fights. He's a coward.