Originally posted by Emperordmb
Great analysis!I always thought the Echani thing was more tactical foresight than precognition though.
Also the Soresu explanation is incomplete.
Awesome thread Ant, I loved how in depth you were and I loved how you provided evidence, I mean it's sad to see revan's along with many other great stories and character(Kreia comes to mind) just be wiped away clean, but all good things come to an end, either way I really enjoyed your thread, even if TOR/KOTOR Era haters deem him a fan-fiction OC. keep up the good work, 😉
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nah, it's confirmed Battle Precognition. However, his fast knowledge in military tactics probably helped. THis reminds me of a topic to make...
This would also explain the lack of any mention of the force here, and the fact that what would be presumably godly precog is never mentioned again, but his tactic ingenuity is practically legend.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasywhats so great about about kotor 1 and 2 the gameplay was horrible and boring and very little action. The jedi knight series was far better
Awesome thread Ant, I loved how in depth you were and I loved how you provided evidence, I mean it's sad to see revan's along with many other great stories and character(Kreia comes to mind) just be wiped away clean, but all good things come to an end, either way I really enjoyed your thread, even if TOR/KOTOR Era haters deem him a fan-fiction OC. keep up the good work, 😉
Originally posted by PTforthewin
whats so great about about kotor 1 and 2 the gameplay was horrible and boring and very little action. The jedi knight series was far better
I personally enjoyed both series, but there something about Kotor that to this day still draws me in and makes me want to play it, whether its Kreia's gray view of the force, the exile's wound and destruction of a planet, Revan's retraining and power or simply hearing the mystery behind the Mandolorian wars and Jedi civilization wars I just really enjoy it, its like watching a movie you like, it never gets old or boring, Bastila, Carth, Jolee, Atton, Visas, HK-47, T3-M4, Canderous, Meetra, Kreia, Malak and Revan, these character are very different compared to the anti-hero bull we get from Starkiller or the Super generic 'Chosen One's BS we get from Anakin, it was different imo, Kreia views amazed me, her reasoning amazed, and her character is one of the most original ones I've ever seen or read, Revan a brilliant yet imperfect Jedi master who's views are considered taboo by the Jedi order, Meetra a Jedi that cut her self off from the force in order to survive and became stronger for it, a Jedi riddled with guilt over the tremendous loss of life at malachor V, making her forsake all of the Jedi tenets. Kotor is a game that I still enjoy to this day, the dialogue, the voice acting, the story, Revan and The Exile, it was a dark and welcomed change of pace, and though they might not be considered canon anymore, to me, Kotor along with all of its characters,remains one of the best games and eras of the classic Star Wars EU.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasynice speech
I personally enjoyed both series, but there something about Kotor that to this day still draws me in and makes me want to play it, whether its Kreia's gray view of the force, the exile's wound and destruction of a planet, Revan's retraining and power or simply hearing the mystery behind the Mandolorian wars and Jedi civilization wars I just really enjoy it, its like watching a movie you like, it never gets old or boring, Bastila, Carth, Jolee, Atton, Visas, HK-47, T3-M4, Canderous, Meetra, Kreia, Malak and Revan, these character are very different compared to the anti-hero bull we get from Starkiller or the Super generic 'Chosen One's BS we get from Anakin, it was different imo, Kreia views amazed me, her reasoning amazed, and her character is one of the most original ones I've ever seen or read, Revan a brilliant yet imperfect Jedi master who's views are considered taboo by the Jedi order, Meetra a Jedi that cut her self off from the force in order to survive and became stronger for it, a Jedi riddled with guilt over the tremendous loss of life at malachor V, making her forsake all of the Jedi tenets. Kotor is a game that I still enjoy to this day, the dialogue, the voice acting, the story, Revan and The Exile, it was a dark and welcomed change of pace, and though they might not be considered canon anymore, to me, Kotor along with all of its characters,remains one of the best games and eras of the classic Star Wars EU.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I always thought it was the other way around. I thought it was tactical foresight (somewhat akin to what Robert Downey Jr's Sherlock Holmes does) supplemented by precognition, which would make sense because I don't recall all Echani being force wielders, and the fact that they are intimately familiar with the rhythms of combat to the point to which it's almost a language for them. The quote does seem to indicate this by referring to how the Echani are "[reading] their opponents" so that they can "know where an opponent is going to strike before it connects." The fact that it is referred to as being akin to a "game of dejarik" (which I assume is similar to chess) also implies that it is mostly a tactical thing.This would also explain the lack of any mention of the force here, and the fact that what would be presumably godly precog is never mentioned again, but his tactic ingenuity is practically legend.
Originally posted by PTforthewin
revan is nothing more then the average jedi he's at least at Cin dralligs level or below
Yeah because an average Jedi could break a sith emperor's hold over them, an average Jedi could INFLUENCE the emperors mind and buy the republic sometime, an average Jedi withstood 300 years of torture and still managed to keep the Foundry a secret, an Average Jedi that defeated A supposed power Sith lord named Nyrris with minimal effort, an Average Jedi survived the emperors dreaded lightning, an average who's views on the sith are what laid the foundation for the rule of two, an Average Jedi who bane considered a 'true' sith Lord, an average Jedi that delved in the dark And ancient knowledge of both Malachor and Korriban, Yeah Revan is an 'average' Jedi.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasythose arent feats those are game mechanics. Any PT council member can defeat him
Yeah because an average Jedi could break a sith emperor's hold over them, an average Jedi could INFLUENCE the emperors mind and buy the republic sometime, an average Jedi withstood 300 years of torture and still managed to keep the Foundry a secret, an Average Jedi that defeated A supposed power Sith lord named Nyrris with minimal effort, an Average Jedi survived the emperors dreaded lightning, an average who's views on the sith are what laid the foundation for the rule of two, an Average Jedi who bane considered a 'true' sith Lord, an average Jedi that delved in the dark And ancient knowledge of both Malachor and Korriban, Yeah Revan is an 'average' Jedi.
Update: This thread sucked so I made an updated and expanded version. Hopefully you enjoy: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/darthant66/blog/revans-lightsaber-abilities-overview/97613/