Matrix vs. Star Wars

Originally posted by quanchi112
Neo has tk as well. 😂

No, he doesn't.

Neo and Smith are far faster, stronger, and more durable.

Jedi have precognition and can block blaster bolts and projectiles, as well as move at burst speeds quite well. But TK literally takes a split second. This is a red herring.

Neo also possesses tk and has actually stopped bullet speed projectiles. Unlike Yoda who needs to stop and concentrate on one object.

🙂

Uh, no. That's not TK; that's Neo rewriting the code. That's why he "saw" code when he resurrected. Neo is a local reality warper of sorts. While I won't rule out that he can do some pretty ridiculous stuff, technically speaking the Force is "everywhere" and can exert its influence rapidly across distances, which is why Darth Vader can commit klingon promotions with a choke from spaceship to spaceship.

Bottom line: TK is evident. That it cannot be defended against is evident.

You lose.

In the Matrix Neo can pretty much warp reality. If the Jedi fight Neo in the Matrix, they lose hard.

Originally posted by Firefly218
In the Matrix Neo can pretty much warp reality. If the Jedi fight Neo in the Matrix, they lose hard.

Shhh.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
No, he doesn't.

Jedi have precognition and can block blaster bolts and projectiles, as well as move at burst speeds quite well. But TK literally takes a split second. This is a red herring.

Uh, no. That's not TK; that's Neo rewriting the code. That's why he "saw" code when he resurrected. Neo is a local reality warper of sorts. While I won't rule out that he can do some pretty ridiculous stuff, technically speaking the Force is "everywhere" and can exert its influence rapidly across distances, which is why Darth Vader can commit klingon promotions with a choke from spaceship to spaceship.

Bottom line: TK is evident. That it cannot be defended against is evident.

You lose.

Whatever you want to call it still has the same function as tk in the Matrix. Vader can choke people without powers safely away from a computer screen but please explain why that is relevant here.

Neo can rewrite the code or use tk. He doesn't need to completely focus on it like the lame Jedi.

Smith rapes.

Id love to argue this but cannot do so effectively and/or properly because I do not acknowledge the existence of the second and third films in the Matrix trilogy.

That's all.

Originally posted by The Renegade
Id love to argue this but cannot do so effectively and/or properly because I do not acknowledge the existence of the second and third films in the Matrix trilogy.

That's all.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he does. Blocking isn't anyway near as fast as outmaneuvering your body out of the way of multiple bullets. That's true speed, kiddo.

Whatever you want to call it still has the same function as tk in the Matrix. Vader can choke people without powers safely away from a computer screen but please explain why that is relevant here.

Neo can rewrite the code or use tk. He doesn't need to completely focus on it like the lame Jedi.

Smith rapes.

Neo can't rewrite the whole Matrix and just invalidate his opponents, so proof of that please. Otherwise, he would not have had to fight anybody post-1.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Neo can't rewrite the whole Matrix and just invalidate his opponents, so proof of that please. Otherwise, he would not have had to fight anybody post-1.

Neo is far faster, more durable, can heal, resist fatal wounds, etc. Neo stomps the weak Jedi.

I wouldn't necessarily call the Jedi "weak".

However, Neo is in an entirely different class than the Jedi.

Neo stomps.