Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer is also not Thor, and they both have a different physiology. However, I don't see why Thanos would not have been able to sever or break one of the Surfer's limbs. This is what you seem to be having a hard time understanding. In many cases, it would be far easier to be to beat the life out of them. Again this is not Thor. Some writes had the Surfer cut in pieces, and continue to operate. Let's try to stay on course here. This is about Thor, not the Surfer.
Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying that if I got into a fight with Bruce Lee and beat him to death, I could break his bones afterwards? Once you think about that, I want you to think about how durable Thor is and what he and his bones (lol) has endured.
What I want you to think about, is that there are guys out there that can break his bones. This would generally be guys above his weight class. I do believe that after a while if they fought that Thor would begin to get hurt, and the longer it went on the more severe the hurt would become. It took 7 hits to kill the Surfer, and he isn't exactly squishy in terms of durability. The Surfer and Thor going all out are just about even. Thanos is above these two. This wouldn't be a tussle Carver.
Originally posted by Stoic
Well before he reverted to Olsen ha ha, it looked as if Thor was taking the worst of the exchange. If a high Herald could do that to Thor, what does that make Thor? I viewed Perrikus as being a step above High Herald. Unless I missed something?
It was pretty even until Mjlonir was cut. And he was holding back.
And Perrikus did not do nearly enough damage to justify this reference. As a matter of fact, Thor was taking that beating and keeping his feet despite the intensity of it.
Also my term High Herald was very conservative. Perrikus's weapon cut Mjolnir in half, he was taking on Hercules and the Destroyer Armor at the same time in combat, shrugged off a blast from the Anti-Force (When a few issues later it hurt Mangog), later on shrugs off a Mjolnir throw AND a blast from the Destroyer, somehow got stronger and did crazy well against King Thor. IIRC he even helped defeat Odin in their original encounter although I believe Odin ended up kicking their ass.
Now that I think about it, I don't know why I called him a Herald level being below Thanos. mhmm
😂 What a Thor fan I am, lowballing the Odinson.
You can make a case for him being High Trans probably. I just didn't want people complaining because Thor kicked his ass in the end when he stopped holding back (As if that's outside the realm of possibility).
Originally posted by carver9
Nope. He isn't breaking Thor arms. Sorry.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYup.
What do you mean glancing? Are you implying it was only a partial blow?
I will admit however that I had forgotten about his fight with Bor.You do that a lot.
So now we have two instances of his bones being broken:We could compare that to Superman's record. After all COIE Anti-monitor didn't break Superman's bones with several attacks. He's only slightly more powerful than Odin, right?
- A weakened Thor against an amped Destroyer.
- Bor while taken by surprise by his power.As far as records go, that is pretty crazy. Especially when we list of all the beings who have beaten on Thor.
I already made it clear to you where I view Thor/Superman in durability.And I and several others have owned you on it.
You seem to be very excited about linking to that discussion. If you're so confident, do you want to make a battle zone?About Superman and Thor's durability? Why not?
A machine made by the Molecule Man.Nah, he wasn't powering it. He wasn't powering the machine.
It would have also killed Surfer.So? Superman is more durable than surfer too.
How does referencing a being with this much power support your point?Because he wasn't powering the machine?
No, they, really wouldn't. It'd have to be an extreme outlier.Nope. Normal showings. Doomsday would probably tear Thor's arm off.
Ulik was hurting Thor with his barrage but he didn't cause any real injury.That's not what Thor said.
So we know that the Destroyer is in itself ridiculously strong, and in this instance, it was amped by the Designate, who herself can access high end Skyfather power, but it's not as strong as Doomsday? Lol.Yes, its not. We go by what happened on panel and as you've proved that Thor can go toe to toe with it for whole issues, I don't see how anyone can say its even as strong as doomsday. Doomsday would push Thor's shit in.
Yes, she did. Good feat for Sif, the Asgardians, even the weaker ones like Heimdall, Balder, Volstagg, Sif etc. are an incredibly sturdy lot. They've survived some crazy shit over the years.She has also been nearly killed by a backhand from Masterson. She is a class 30 and your wanking of any character related to Thor is rather comical. And no, it shows for all its hype for designate having skyfather level power, Destroyer had shitty striking power in that issue. You want me to believe Sif can take hits from H/P Doomsday wielding mjolnir and stay on her feet?
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I don't think Ulik was literally turning his bones to dust or whatever. He was literally unharmed the next panel. If he was significantly damage or perhaps showed some sign of injury, I would agree. This contradiction is easily explainable by Thor's state of depression and weakness at the time. His muscles were also sore and exhausted. Until Ulik pissed him off.Lots of excuses. Thor said Ulik was battering his bones into dust and could deliver a fatal blow.
Actually, I could easily make a case for Thor being able to hold back his durability. We've seen his own belief and faith literally define his physical form as recently as Fraction's run.Hahaha, you actually believe that?
Adrenaline Rush in real life? 😂 Thanks for confirming you aren't from this planet.Yup, I'm from krypton.
Thor has literally struck harder and tanked damage that was previously hurting him AFTER an extended fight.So have a lot of heroes. Just ask Spider-man.
Yes, Thor did lose an arm fighting Thing AND the Hulk. After HOURS of extended combat.That would not happen to Superman.
Not to mention the two could have easily been targeting his already injured arm.Logan only attacked his forearm.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsWolverine.jpg
Later when he emerged his arm was torn from his shoulder. Its clear they tore off his arm. Poor Thor.
Originally posted by Stoic
What I want you to think about, is that there are guys out there that can break his bones. This would generally be guys above his weight class. I do believe that after a while if they fought that Thor would begin to get hurt, and the longer it went on the more severe the hurt would become. It took 7 hits to kill the Surfer, and he isn't exactly squishy in terms of durability. The Surfer and Thor going all out are just about even. Thanos is above these two. This wouldn't be a tussle Carver.
Sigh.
Was Surfer skin broken or physically damaged when Thanos killed him. You keep bringing this showing up not knowing that its contradicting your entire argument. Thanos killing Surfer due to blunt force attacks doesn't have a thing to do with breaking bones. This is what you are not realizing. Thanos killed Surfer. Whoop dedoo. Was Surfer physical shell damage? NO. He didn't have a scratch on him. We are not arguing if Thanos could kill Thor, we are arguing if he could break his bone during the process and using Surfer as an example just isn't helping your case since Surfer structure was still intact. Why are you making this so difficult? Now, since we are past that. I want you to provide a scan of Thanos breaking the bones of a character as durable as Thor. You have to have it since you are making this claim.
Like I've told you, I could kill a man with repeated blows to the head, that does not mean that afterwards, I could grab his arms and start breaking his bones. Superman could kill Darkseid with repeated blows to the head. I know for a fact Superman without some type of amp, isn't going to grab Darkseid arms and break them. It aint happening.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
HP DD is one of the safest bets.He broke the arm of an equal to Thor. This equal is often considered more durable, and he also happened to be amped with a motherbox. So IMHO everything points to HPDD being capable of accomplishing the OP.
He was amped by Kryptonite X, too.
And yeah, the blow which broke Thor's arm was said to fell a mountain.
Jurgens' Superman outright catches such punches.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/punchcatching/superman148a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/punchcatching/superman148b.jpg
What's funny that Jake Olson survived at least two direct attacks from destroyer. He must be super-duper durable too.
Everyone related to Thor is super-duper durable. Such a great logic!!!
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh.Was Surfer skin broken or physically damaged when Thanos killed him. You keep bringing this showing up not knowing that its contradicting your entire argument. Thanos killing Surfer due to blunt force attacks doesn't have a thing to do with breaking bones. This is what you are not realizing. Thanos killed Surfer. Whoop dedoo. Was Surfer physical shell damage? NO. He didn't have a scratch on him. We are not arguing if Thanos could kill Thor, we are arguing if he could break his bone during the process and using Surfer as an example just isn't helping your case since Surfer structure was still intact. Why are you making this so difficult? Now, since we are past that. I want you to provide a scan of Thanos breaking the bones of a character as durable as Thor. You have to have it since you are making this claim.
Like I've told you, I could kill a man with repeated blows to the head, that does not mean that afterwards, I could grab his arms and start breaking his bones. Superman could kill Darkseid with repeated blows to the head. I know for a fact Superman without some type of amp, isn't going to grab Darkseid arms and break them. It aint happening.
I see you've gone almost full clownshoes mode on me now... Let me ask you this... If a guy gets in two separate fights... In one fight he's basically killed from 7 punches to the head and body... he needs CPR or he would've died... In another fight a guy armbars him and puts him in a kneebar and breaks his arm and legs... You go up and ask the guy... Which fight did you take more damage? What on God's green earth would he say? Obviously the one that killed him. Which is the point.. that is doing MORE damage than breaking somebody's arms or legs. What's so difficult to understand here.
Further, Surfer's body doesn't damage like Thor... he doesn't bled the same way he doesn't get limbs broken the same way. I don't even know if he has bones in the traditional way. However, if you want to look at him as traditional.. you do realize you're disproving your case which each post. You do understand that vital organs like your brain and others are PROTECTED by bones.. in fact when it comes to the brain.. one of the strongest. Blows so strong and powerful that could damage organs would require breaking those protective bones. I could punch somebody in the side and puncture their lungs with a bone... You look at them and go... well they look ok... Don't see any blood.. doesn't seem very deformed... must be no damage.. Ummm no.. the damage is done on the inside that you can't see by just looking at them laying there. See how that works? Surfer is even more of a extreme case.. his body isn't even traditional like that.. but to bypass his almost invulnerable shell and do damage so severe that he dies.. means he got ****ed up WAY worse than him breaking a limb. By the way.. can I see scans of him having his arms broken and bleeding in a traditional way?
