Darth Zannah vs. TFU Shaak Ti

Force, sabers, all out

Ti due to her force nexus on felucia

I say Zannah. Ti hasn't demonstrated an offense of the caliber that could break Zannah's defenses, and she hasn't shown me any willpower feats that suggest she would overcome Zannah's illusions.

Zannah has never seen Makashi, and while she fought an Ataru specialist she's never fought someone who has ever moved as evasively or as fast as Ti.

Ti takes this with mid difficulty.

Bane moves faster than ti

Not in DOE he doesn't.

I'd wager they're the same speed. POD Bane is faster though marginally.

Originally posted by carthage
Not in DOE he doesn't.

I'd wager they're the same speed. POD Bane is faster though marginally.

I never said he was a slug lol, he's admittedly slower and weaker than he was when he was younger.

I never even said he was slower than Ti, they're probably the same speed tbh.

Originally posted by carthage
I never said he was a slug lol, he's admittedly slower and weaker than he was when he was younger.

I never even said he was slower than Ti, they're probably the same speed tbh.

There is actually proof that DOE Bane is faster than POD Bane. At the beginning of ROT, which is right after POD, Bane considers deflecting the raindrops in a storm to be an impossible feat. In DOE he is capable of doing it for a substantial period of time.

if bane is slower and weaker then why does Zannah remark in there last fight that he moves faster than she could have ever imagined?

Because he was holding back during their sparring sessions.

She's also seen him fight with the orbalisks on.

and by that fight they had already engaged each other in serious combat, remember, bane was unarmed and he kicked her ass

Doesn't count as he was amped (per usual). Though holding him off is quite impressive imo. She doesn't have that same advantage with Ti as Ti is a more evasive fighter.

I really ****ing hope they wipe nexus's in the new EU. No understands them and just use them to duck out of an argument when there loosing

I'm not using the 'nexus' argument with regards to Bane. He was amped by the orbalisks, not a nexus when he was fighting young Zannah. Granted Ti, is amped but her dueling style is still kind of the same as it was when she fought Grievous and the magnaguards. She arguably got better IMO

Point being she's seen him fight like that, so that should be well within what she is capable of imagining.

So what if Ti is evasive (which her fighting description in TFU doesn't seem to support), it's not as if Zannah will try to cut her down in a lightsaber duel.

Once again Zannah has no idea how to even defend against Makashi, she has weaker stamina, is more incompetent, and needs time to prep her spells.

Nothing is in her favor

Originally posted by carthage
Once again Zannah has no idea how to even defend against Makashi, she has weaker stamina, is more incompetent, and needs time to prep her spells.

Nothing is in her favor

2. Zannah's minimalist style compensates for her "lack of stamina"

3. Zannah tripped while under pressure from Bane, and managed to get back on her feat. Shaak Ti was taken out by a desperate and random strike from Starkiller, while she was pressing the advantage in a duel and had a huge environmental advantage. Not quite seeing how Zannah is significantly more incompetent here.

4. Which her defensive form would certainly buy the time for.

Bane maybe be faster the Ti in a sprint but not agility including turns, spins and dodges