Battle of the Eras: ESB Rebel Aliance vs ROTS Empire

This is a battle I don't think it was ever done before.

So,it is just as the title suggests; we are putting the Rebel Aliance of the Original Trilogy as of ESB vs the Galactic Empire as of ROTS,as it was during Order 66.

We know how long the Rebel Aliance held it's own against the Empire when it was fully formed,Vader was more experient,and all that.But would the Rebel Aliance be able to defeat the Empire from Order 66 era?

The Rebel Alliance gets its resources of the Original Trilogy by ESB,including as well Leia,ESB Luke,Han,Chewie,Lando and ESB Yoda on their side as well.

The Empire,like wise,has it's resources from the "Order 66" Era,meaning they have the human Anakin as Darth Vader,ROTS Palpatine,the Clone Troopers and ships they had acess to at this era.

So,which side would be victorious on this war?

The Galactic Empire circa RotS is the Empire of the OT but with more competence.

So, Rebels get crushed imo.

The Empire would consist of battle-hardened clones.

The Rebellion works by hit and run and such anyway. It can't afford many direct fights. It could, bare minimum, hold out for a long time... but the Empire hasn't yet gotten a chance to be too oppressive and give the Rebellion it's covert support and resource base.

That said, it's Mon Cal cruisers outmatch Venators, and X-wings outmatch the fighters of the era worse than they do TIEs. They also have knowledge of all their secret hidey holes and such, and probably access to the old Clone Wars era codes, allowing them to tap into enemy chatter.

It potentially has the opportunity to make a run at Palpatine or the like ala the Battle for Coruscant in RotS, only more competent. So victory is not out of the question, just difficult.

Or perhaps gather O66 survivors before they can be hunted down, and get Luke trained up as high as he can. Leia too, this time around.

That sounds pretty much right.The Empire has more heavy hitters with Anakin and ROTS Sideous,but the Rebels have more advanced technology.

And I didn't think on the rescuing of survivors of Order 66,if they managed to do it,the Rebels would really have the advantage here.That was a good point.^^

That said,Anakin as Vader is often too blinded by his rage to be as efficient as his armored self from the OT,though Yoda from ESB might lack the stamina to fight for long,and might not give Sidious as good as a fight as his ROTS did.

Empire the clones are way to good for the shitty foolish rebel troopers

Skill in fighting direct battles doesn't equal skill at finding a hiding enemy, it just helps when one does find them. If the rebellion could be beaten simply by superiority on the ground, the the Empire would've crush them easily. And the Rebellion is quite good at space combat.

Originally posted by Q99
Skill in fighting direct battles doesn't equal skill at finding a hiding enemy, it just helps when one does find them. If the rebellion could be beaten simply by superiority on the ground, the the Empire would've crush them easily. And the Rebellion is quite good at space combat.

Originally posted by Q99
Skill in fighting direct battles doesn't equal skill at finding a hiding enemy, it just helps when one does find them. If the rebellion could be beaten simply by superiority on the ground, the the Empire would've crush them easily. And the Rebellion is quite good at space combat.

Saying they won from plot convenience is not an argument.

It is honestly the only reasonable argument, aside from what Q99 said.

Originally posted by King Joker
Saying they won from plot convenience is not an argument.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
it's still true though plot conveniance is the only reason qui gon lost to maul or operation knightfall succeeded or the escape from the Death Star

Qui-Gon gave it his all and was beaten. That's irrelevant.

This is essentially the RotS Republic vs. the ESB Rebels. Only the Republic that's a little more willing to be evil about everything. It's an ignoble defeat for the Rebels.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
plus the empire was winning the battle on endor had it not been for the ewoks and chewbacca the rebellion would have been destroyed there.

A large chunk of it, sure, though there'd still be rebel supports and agents scattered across the galaxy. Conversely, the Empire had to *lure* the rebellion out with a target they had no choice but to target. They were unable to locate and go after the Rebel fleet's actual hiding places, they had to have the rebellion come to them.

Additionally, sans Chewie and Ewoks, the Emperor and Vader would've still died thanks to Luke, as well as the Executor and all the high commanders on that. So even if you took that out, you'd be at a pretty mutually-painful situation with no sith left and one Jedi on the Death Star.

.... You know, that brings to mind a *really* cool movie where that happens, and it's up to Luke on the Death Star II to rescue the captured Han and Leia, prevent the DS2 from being used on any world (It can fire, but I do wonder if it can hyperspace yet), while the Empire is in chaos from a lot of it's high leadership going down, and similarly the rebellion has to figure out what it can do with the scraps it has left after most of it's fleet is destroyed.