Emperor Vitiate vs Darth Plageuis

Started by Nephthys2 pages

No its not.

His lightning was 'infinitely more powerful' than Nyriss', which blew through a force shield and still packed enough punch to utterly disintegrate herself. Revan surviving is testament to Revan's power, not Vitiates weakness.

So a charged up and prepared Vitiate's FLS on a Dark Side Nexus is not a fair demonstration of his powers? I agree. His lightning would be even lesser.
Yes, it is a testament to Revan's threshold, but someone like Plagueis has a much greater one.

No, its very much a fair demonstration of his powers.

Threshold? Revan didn't just tank that shit by being like, ****ing Hulk levels durable. He was partially blocking it with his tutaminis, which is why it didn't disintegrate him. If it had hit him while he was unprotected, obviously it would utterly obliterate him, as Nyriss' lightning was capable of. But Vitiates lightning is greatly more powerful than hers.

If it had hit him while he was unprotected, obviously it would utterly obliterate him

Once Revan's tutaminis failed, the Emperor continued to spam Revan with lightning.

The fact that Vitiate needed time and an amp to unleash such a FLS onto Revan, and he shown us in a desperate situation his lightning is nothing a lightsaber can't handle, I don't really see how Vitiate is going to beat Plagueis via lightning. Plagueis can easily close the distance in the time it takes Vitiate to summon such a force storm.

Obviously Revan was still partially blunting the attack, noob.

Just because Revan can deflect his lightning with a lightsaber doesn't mean Plagueis can. Revan has faaaar better feats of defending against lightning than Plagueis does.

Of course, Vitiate could just TP stomp Plagueis.

Proof Vitiate has prep for this match, because his TP is not something he can just do in seconds.

Obviously Revan was still partially blunting the attack, noob.

It's never outright stated
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Revan has faaaar better feats of defending against lightning than Plagueis does.

👆 But Plagueis has better strength, pain threshold, and agility feats.

Are you seriously just going to jump away from the RvB-Team thread immediately after I take the time to type up a case?

Don't be a coward, my boy.

I haven't replied yet? I'm reply now.

Vitiate is not dominating Plagueis' mind. Through sheer will Plagueis (along with Palpatine) managed to shift the force in their favor, and was able to manipulate midichorians in others. Not to mention Plagueis knows how to shield his mind, as he's the one who taught Palpatine how to rebuild his mental shield after Palpatine had tore it down in a fit of rage.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Plageuis could block Vitiate's lightning with his lightsaber.

Not possible.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yes. Revan and the Hero have done it,

They managed to block some bursts but they could not block storms of lightning.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
and Plagueis has superior strength and force feats to either of them.

This is subjective assessment.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
👆 Revan was able to survive Vitiate's FLS, his lightning is not that impressive.

Revan didn't survive by virtue of his own power, he survived due to interference of T3-M4 who disrupted Vitiate's assault.

Revan was exposed to such power for just a second or two and he was badly injured by it:

What he saw was not good. Revan was being electrocuted, his body spasming uncontrollably as the Emperor blasted him with dark purple lightning.

Revan’s astromech launched a jet of flame at the Emperor, freeing Revan, who collapsed to the ground. In retaliation, the Emperor disintegrated the offending droid, strode over to where Revan lay, and picked the vanquished Jedi’s lightsaber up off the floor.

It all happened in the space of only a few seconds. (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan)

Imagine what would have happened if T3-M4 had not interfered, it doesn't takes a genius to figure this out.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Once Revan's tutaminis failed, the Emperor continued to spam Revan with lightning.

See above

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The fact that Vitiate needed time and an amp to unleash such a FLS onto Revan, and he shown us in a desperate situation his lightning is nothing a lightsaber can't handle, I don't really see how Vitiate is going to beat Plagueis via lightning. Plagueis can easily close the distance in the time it takes Vitiate to summon such a force storm.

Gathering power is common development during combat situations to increase effectiveness of attacks. In addition, Emperor Vitiate doesn't needs amp to be potent, he subdued a Jedi Strike Team in a neutral setting.

Plagueis is unlikely to cope with powers of Emperor Vitiate who can single-handedly demolish whole Strike Teams of powerful individuals; Strike Teams of powerful individuals are logically more difficult to subdue then a lone Plagueis.

Also, Vitiate responds very quickly, he summons powers during combat situations at such speeds that it is impossible for others to stop him. Entire duel between Revan and Vitiate lasted some seconds. Don't get fooled by poor writing skills of Mr. Drew.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Proof Vitiate has prep for this match, because his TP is not something he can just do in seconds.

These kind of claims are baseless. Kindly drop this nonsense.

It takes Vitiate less then a second to overwhelm the senses of other individual with his telepathic abilities. Vitiate subdued Scourge in less then a second. In-fact, Vitiate subdued both Revan and Malak in a second or less.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Vitiate is not dominating Plagueis' mind. Through sheer will Plagueis (along with Palpatine) managed to shift the force in their favor, and was able to manipulate midichorians in others. Not to mention Plagueis knows how to shield his mind, as he's the one who taught Palpatine how to rebuild his mental shield after Palpatine had tore it down in a fit of rage.

This proves nothing.

Vitiate have history of breaking even those individuals with just his telepathic abilities who have never been dominated in this way by anybody or were even thought to be susceptible to this kind of influence.

It is important to understand the nature of Vitiate's telepathic abilities. In less then a second, Vitiate can bombard a target's brain with lot of haunting images and the brain gets overloaded by exposure to such magnitude of information being forced in to it.

Plagueis's ability to perform actions at will have nothing to do with limitations of his mental capacities.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Proof Vitiate has prep for this match, because his TP is not something he can just do in seconds.

Proof that he can't do it in seconds?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's never outright stated

It doesn't need to be stated. If he wasn't, he'd be ash on the ground. Keep up, Ant. Nyriss' lightning could turn a person to ash upon unprotected contact. Vitiates lightning is vastly superior to hers. Unless you're stupid enough to think his lightning..... can't turn people to ash, which is retarded, it logically factual that Revan was still partially blunting the attack.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
👆 But Plagueis has better strength, pain threshold, and agility feats.

None of which are that important in blocking lightning. If Vitiate can overpower his defense, all the pain threshold in the world won't help him.

Strength helps a lot when blocking lightning.

It doesn't need to be stated. If he wasn't, he'd be ash on the ground. Keep up, Ant. Nyriss' lightning could turn a person to ash upon unprotected contact. Vitiates lightning is vastly superior to hers. Unless you're stupid enough to think his lightning..... can't turn people to ash, which is retarded, it logically factual that Revan was still partially blunting the attack.

This logical conclusion is trashed by Jedi Strike.

Who Vitiate states he wants alive as he's knocking them out.