Originally posted by dial J for Josh
h1a8 has a point. Surfer is marvels most powerful herald for a reason. He can solo imo. Surfer at his highest is potentially above Thanos. His speed will overwhelm Thanos in the long run because Thanos is too slow. h1a8 how many rounds do you think surfer can take off of Thanos? I say a solid 6/10
Didn't know you were this big of a moron... Now I know though 👆
Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha Surfer wanted to put Thanos down and it's not pis as it happenes every time they face each other.Care to prove how Surfers Black holes are better and more powerful usual actual showings and facts.
Again more nonsense Surfer doesn't use or show that type of combat feat, if you think he does and has give some examples of actual combat related speed use
Originally posted by Supermex
lol bro what you smokin over there!!??
The Frankstien? I agree with you about Surfer being the most powerful herlard in Marvel, but he never been able to overwhelm Thanos..
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Didn't know you were this big of a moron... Now I know though 👆
Originally posted by carver9
I don't think dial is serious. I truly don't believe he thinks Surfer could beat Thanos.
(Shhhh! You guys are blowing my cover. I'm trying to side with h1a8 to see how delusional he is and to see if he actually thinks that Surfer beats Thanos, despite history, stats and feats completely countering everything he is saying. Keep quiet why don't you...)
....cough....cough. Yeah you are all idiots, Surfer stomps. He cAn puT duh blacK hoLe in duh braIN of ThAnos so hE Kant not think. Cuz blacK hoLe will sloW down hiz reAction so surfer can fly around at lite speeed. Nothing ThAnos kan do.
Originally posted by dial J for Joshnow you are learning grasshopper. only that a black hole on Thanos person would instantly annihilate him.
(Shhhh! You guys are blowing my cover. I'm trying to side with h1a8 to see how delusional he is and to see if he actually thinks that Surfer beats Thanos, despite history, stats and feats completely countering everything he is saying. Keep quiet why don't you...)....cough....cough. Yeah you are all idiots, Surfer stomps. He cAn puT duh blacK hoLe in duh braIN of ThAnos so hE Kant not think. Cuz blacK hoLe will sloW down hiz reAction so surfer can fly around at lite speeed. Nothing ThAnos kan do.
surfer fighting at his best ability AS SHOWN BEFORE >>>> history of him jobbing and him having his powers turned off for the sake of the plot. 👆
Originally posted by Insane TitanThat wasn't Surfer using his planetary level attacks. Same as Odin not using Galaxy busting attacks on Thanos, same as Gladiator not using planet destroying attacks on a Colossus, same as Superman not using more than earth weight force on most people. I can go on and on. In other words, characters don't always operate at levels they have done so before (or after).
we have all ready seen Surfer best concentrated blast have no effect on Thanos, Surfer even admitted it. Thanos has survived planet destroying attacks several times with ease.You have already been proved wrong about Surfers black hole blasts and Thanos survived a black hole closing on him fully and don't say he he didn't as it says so in the comic.
Show me all the times Surfers speed has aided him in actual combat
Thanos never touched the singularity. He was merely in the event horizon as shown. How do you explain parts of his ship surviving then?
Everytime Surfer has fought an armada of space vessels he uses speed to avoid being hit and zips around destroying the ships. Surfer zip around someone instantly while claiming to move faster than light itself. Surfer chased Bill, who was going many times the speed of light, while not losing any distance. Bill tried to shake him. Imagine changing directions going that fast? If surfer didn't have Ftl speed and Ftl reflexes then the sudden lateral change in direction would result in a huge distance gap instantly. But Surfer always stayed close no matter what.
Originally posted by h1a8surfer stated it was all his might and can concentrate his blasts, plus Thanos tanks planetary attack regular. You can use what you want Surfers own words and actions mean more than your opinion.
That wasn't Surfer using his planetary level attacks. Same as Odin not using Galaxy busting attacks on Thanos, same as Gladiator not using planet destroying attacks on a Colossus, same as Superman not using more than earth weight force on most people. I can go on and on. In other words, characters don't always operate at levels they have done so before (or after).Thanos never touched the singularity. He was merely in the event horizon as shown. How do you explain parts of his ship surviving then?
Everytime Surfer has fought an armada of space vessels he uses speed to avoid being hit and zips around destroying the ships. Surfer zip around someone instantly while claiming to move faster than light itself. Surfer chased Bill, who was going many times the speed of light, while not losing any distance. Bill tried to shake him. Imagine changing directions going that fast? If surfer didn't have Ftl speed and Ftl reflexes then the sudden lateral change in direction would result in a huge distance gap instantly. But Surfer always stayed close no matter what.
Who cares why bits of the ship survived the writers don't care about science laws . It's stated the black hole closed on him after 30 seconds .
Avoiding space ships means shit , one on one surfer gets tagged regularly which is fact
Originally posted by Insane Titan
surfer stated it was all his might and can concentrate his blasts, plus Thanos tanks planetary attack regular. You can use what you want Surfers own words and actions mean more than your opinion.Who cares why bits of the ship survived the writers don't care about science laws . It's stated the black hole closed on him after 30 seconds .
Avoiding space ships means shit , one on one surfer gets tagged regularly which is fact
What planetary blasts or attack did Thanos tank?
Yet I have evidence that Thanos never touched the singularity. Do you have evidence that he did?
Surfer gets tagged because of the plot. Remember contradictions can't exist. Either he is fast enough to avoid being hit or he isn't. I already gave an example of him moving very fast in a one on one scenario. Under full capacity, he won't suddenly lose his powers of reflexes and speed.
Bottomline: This isn't a comic. We don't imagine how these fights would occur in a comic (where Surfer might fight like he doesn't even have superspeed or reflexes in his powerset). Why? Because plot dictates comics, not powerset, not character. In a comic, I can have Spidey beat the shit out of Thor. Plot sells comics. That's why we have forum rules. We have to weed out dumb illogical shit that's created for the sake of the plot. Surfer has used speed and reflexes in battle multiple times. Thus, as shown before, he will do so.
Surfer is too powerful tbh. The only way to create adversity for him is to neuter him. Think about it?
Originally posted by h1a8the scan Galan just posted or magus planet base exploding and same with Tyrants.
What planetary blasts or attack did Thanos tank?Yet I have evidence that Thanos never touched the singularity. Do you have evidence that he did?
Surfer gets tagged because of the plot. Remember contradictions can't exist. Either he is fast enough to avoid being hit or he isn't. I already gave an example of him moving very fast in a one on one scenario. Under full capacity, he won't suddenly lose his powers of reflexes and speed.
Bottomline: This isn't a comic. We don't imagine how these fights would occur in a comic (where Surfer might fight like he doesn't even have superspeed or reflexes in his powerset). Why? Because plot dictates comics, not powerset, not character. In a comic, I can have Spidey beat the shit out of Thor. Plot sells comics. That's why we have forum rules. We have to weed out dumb illogical shit that's created for the sake of the plot. Surfer has used speed and reflexes in battle multiple times. Thus, as shown before, he will do so.
Surfer is too powerful tbh. The only way to create adversity for him is to neuter him. Think about it?
I have the comic saying the black hole closed on him it even shows he wasn't there among the debris, even Adam warlock relays the events , you have nothing but real works physics to use which mean nothing as the writer didn't give a crap about that.
Under full capacity Thanos tags Surfer , but we still use average showings son you need to read the rules .
Think about this Thanosi is more poweful than Surfer as shown many a time
Originally posted by Insane Titan
the scan Galan just posted or magus planet base exploding and same with Tyrants.I have the comic saying the black hole closed on him it even shows he wasn't there among the debris, even Adam warlock relays the events , you have nothing but real works physics to use which mean nothing as the writer didn't give a crap about that.
Under full capacity Thanos tags Surfer , but we still use average showings son you need to read the rules .
Think about this Thanosi is more poweful than Surfer as shown many a time
A black hole has two parts. A singularity (the size of an atom) and it's event horizon (can be a few km to thousands of km). Thanos ship got destroyed trying to escape (it wasn't even in the even horizon). The black hole collapsed on itself means that it died out and ceast to exist along with anything that was in the event horizon. But matter can't just disappear from anywhere. It has to go somewhere or be converted to some other form. So the black hole sent everything to another dimension. Thanos was outside and therefore survived along with parts of his ship.
How can Thanos tag Surfer when he is no where near the speed of light? You can't even prove he can run faster than 100mph. What are his speed feats? Thanos is not even bullet speed. Captain America, Spidey, IF, Gamora etc are faster than him. The only thing fast about Thanos is his hand speed and possibly his reflexes. His movement speed is nil as well as his mobility.
Originally posted by Galan007
That's not quite a planetary level attack I was talking about. That's a planetary explosion. I'm referring to an attack that can cause a planet's destruction with a direct hit. Not the after effect of a planet blowing up. The former is astronomically more powerful. But I'm familiar with that feat. It was very impressive, but not as impressive as getting with with an attack that can make a planet do what we saw. For example, Surfer blowing up a planet while Thanos is on it is astronomically weaker than Surfer hitting Thanos directly with the blast that directly blow up the planet.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
More nonsense and lowballing you simply ignore what is shown as proof in the comic to suit you're own trolling argument
What am I lowballing? It was impressive. But some heralds have survived supernova and big bang shit.
Again, getting hit with something that can destroy planets directly>>>>>>>surviving planet explosions.
Anyway. I already agree that Surfer isn't going to do much to Thanos with his blasts in this fight. But his black hole blast will. Doesn't matter how long it takes, Surfer will eventually end Thanos this way. That's if Thor doesn't rock him silly first.
Thanos can't defend every attack and attack everyone in the process. He will get hit multiple times. These characters have shields and can attack Thanos from a distance.
Originally posted by dial J for JoshNonsense? How does Thanos get around Surfer's speed and mobility in a forum fight. This isn't a comic where Surfer loses his powers for the sake of the plot.
h1a8 just stop. Your spewing out nonsense at this point. Surfer gets spite stomped.
Thanos is one tough bastard.
A. Based on comics he will connect punches/EP thrown at anyone on this team.
B. Based on comics he can tank/no sell attacks from anyone on this team.
C. Based on being in character, won't be any black hole anything from Surfer.
D. Based on comics this team will need a plot device to win.
E. Based on comics he can kill beings in this tier.
Methinks Thanos wins.
Originally posted by h1a8
Nonsense? How does Thanos get around Surfer's speed and mobility in a forum fight. This isn't a comic where Surfer loses his powers for the sake of the plot.
How does Thanos get around black holes?
How does Thanos get around being attacked by multiple people from different angles while ranged?
How does Thanos actually hit many of these people who have shields, evasive maneuvers, phasing abilities, etc?
The same way how Hulk has defeated beings with insane speed. Except Thanos is way more versatile.
Thanos has the defensive mechanisms to counter any of surfers long ranged attacks.... But that won't be necessary, he will no sell anything surfer throws at him without them.
Originally posted by dial J for JoshSo because of plot and not because he is really fast. 👆
The same way how Hulk has defeated beings with insane speed. Except Thanos is way more versatile.
He won't be no selling black holes, or his board in his ass. Yes but Thanos can't attack with his defenses up. The moment he goes for an attack he would get bombarded with attacks.
Thanos has the defensive mechanisms to counter any of surfers long ranged attacks.... But that won't be necessary, he will no sell anything surfer throws at him without them.
