Galen Marek vs. Darth Bane DOE

Cool story, bro.

What Marek does with the Salvation in TFU2 is leagues ahead of anything Bane's ever done.

Marek stomps, honestly.

Bullshit.

Marek had trouble (didn't stomp) with Kota, Shaak Ti, Paratus, Proxy, a random Imperial Guardsman, a bull Rancor and Darth Vader. Bane is superior to any of them.

That Salvation feat is leagues beyond anything Sidious has done too, yet we know Marek can't stomp him. Mareks feats are exaggerated (unleashed) and not representative of his actual capabilities.

😂

1. Sidious has vaporized fleets; the Salvation feat isn't remotely close to his upper tier feats.

2. Sidious, unlike Bane, is confirmed to be Marek's superior.

3. Bane got stomped by Sirak and Marek is superior to him. So therefore Marek stomps Bane?

Spoiler:
Obviously Bane dramatically improved... as did Marek.

1. With TK. Calm down that boner, fanboi. If we're going by any feat I could point out Bane channeling planet-killing levels of energy.

2. Banes respective place in the mythos is indicative of him being on or above Mareks level. Bane is Vaders superior, whom Galen fought to close victories in both games.

3. Marek was performing ridiculous feats from the start of TFU and he still has trouble with those guys. Force Hurricane for example. Marek still had trouble against Vader at the end of TFU II and Vader has nothing on Banes speed or lightning. Also, isn't the clone weaker than the Marek at the end of the first game, judging by their respective fights with Vader?

4. Mareks feats are still exaggerated, bro.

Also you can't really compare Banes growth over decades to Galens growth over months.

Originally posted by Nephthys

4. Mareks feats are still exaggerated, bro.

😬

But Bane's are more in line with movie level feats right?

Lucasfilm's official canon(including feats) has been ripped down to the movies and TCW. Everything else is in Legends, and there's no named distinction between what's exaggerated and what's not anymore.

The Force Unleashed, by its very nature, was created to be as crazy and exaggerated as possible. Its conception was to show the Force being used on a scale beyond what had previously been seen.

The Bane trilogy wasn't.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Force Unleashed, by its very nature, was created to be as crazy and exaggerated as possible. Its conception was to show the Force being used on a scale beyond what had previously been seen.

Saying they wanted over the top force use beyond what was previously seen doesn't make it non-canon. After all that's what Lucas wanted for the PT Lightsaber fights.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Bane trilogy wasn't.

But it's clearly gone there anyway.

Nobody said the movies were setting the standard for power levels in Star Wars. The Bane trilogy can include much higher power levels than the movies without contradicting any internal rules of the movies. TFU on the other hand directly contradicts what the movie establishes about the power levels of the movie characters specifically, and that's the difference.

Edit - Not that I'm against using Galen Marek by his TFU feats though, just saying, if we're using the truest version of his character we have to scale down his powers.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Saying they wanted over the top force use beyond what was previously seen doesn't make it non-canon. After all that's what Lucas wanted for the PT Lightsaber fights.

👆

It's "canon".

Kinda love the boners Bane's fanboys have for him. if this is TFU Marek, He loses in a good fight, if this TFU2 Marek, well his force rage might give him an edge over Bane.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
his telekinetic defense is more impressive.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Saying they wanted over the top force use beyond what was previously seen doesn't make it non-canon. After all that's what Lucas wanted for the PT Lightsaber fights.

Of course its still canon. Just like the CW mini is still canon. But as Ares put it it's "canon". We just have to bare in mind that the feats were scaled up to be as over the top as possible. In Galens actual showings against other characters he doesn't just blow them away with his crazy Force powers like he really should be able to do.

As you said its quite similar to the PT fights, except that we actually scale it up in terms of speed and the physical capabilities of the actors. If Lucas wanted it over the top, he did a bad job.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But it's clearly gone there anyway.

Nah. Bane was written by Drew to be one of the most powerful Sith in history and his feats reflect that in their similarity to other characters on the same level. He has extremely fast speed like Sidious, he's extremely strong like Vader and he can disintegrate beings with lightning and TK again like Sidious. His feats are consistent with others at the top of the tiers.

Marek was written to be completely over the top. As Astor said, we should keep that in mind and scale down his ability to match his true capabilities. Galen is a little better in lightsabers than Vader and he's a little more powerful than Vader with the Force. That's his real level as I see it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
But as Ares put it it's "canon".

I put quotes around it because technically it's no longer canon (along with the Bane books). Not because it's supposedly "exaggerated" or some other bullshit that's used to toss out feats.

How I see TFU is it was just a big spectical. Flashy lightning everywhere with bodies flying all over the place. Marek is powerful, no doubt about it but many of his video game feats were neutered by the book and that's how it should be. Galen is around Vaders level, Bane is beyond Vaders level

Galen is actually more powerful in the books.

Originally posted by ares834
I put quotes around it because technically it's no longer canon (along with the Bane books). Not because it's supposedly "exaggerated" or some other bullshit that's used to toss out feats.

I know, I just thought it was an appropriate way of phrasing it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
1. With TK. Calm down that boner, fanboi. If we're going by any feat I could point out Bane channeling planet-killing levels of energy.

2. Banes respective place in the mythos is indicative of him being on or above Mareks level. Bane is Vaders superior, whom Galen fought to close victories in both games.

3. Marek was performing ridiculous feats from the start of TFU and he still has trouble with those guys. Force Hurricane for example. Marek still had trouble against Vader at the end of TFU II and Vader has nothing on Banes speed or lightning. Also, isn't the clone weaker than the Marek at the end of the first game, judging by their respective fights with Vader?

4. Mareks feats are still exaggerated, bro.

1. You could, but it still doesn't compare to what Marek does with the Salvation

2. Your personal interpretation of Bane's placement vis a vis Marek doesn't equate to explicit confirmation

3. Like you often say for TOR characters, it might just mean that Marek's opponents are that good?

4. Cool story, bro.

Anyway, Marek still wins.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
1. You could, but it still doesn't compare to what Marek does with the Salvation

2. Your personal interpretation of Bane's placement vis a vis Marek doesn't equate to explicit confirmation

3. Like you often say for TOR characters, it might just mean that Marek's opponents are that good?

4. Cool story, bro.

Anyway, Marek still wins.

1. Um, yeah it does? Planetary levels of energy >>> obliterating half a ship.

2. Banes one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever and his feats support that. He would defeat Vader easier than Marek did.

3. So, you think that a random Shadow Guardsman is going to give Marek a better fight than Darth Bane? You think that Kota, Shaak Ti, Paratus, Proxy and Vader are better than Bane?

Ah wait, I'm being trolled? That makes sense. You tipped your hand a little easy there though.

4. It is a cool story. He is not nearly as impressive as you think he is.

I'm still not hearing how he does. Bane would crush him in lightsabers before Marek could bring the Force to bare.

Bane is actually "one of the most powerful individuals in the [Star Wars] universe." (alongside Revan) -Drew

Originally posted by Nephthys
1. Um, yeah it does? Planetary levels of energy >>> obliterating half a ship.

2. Banes one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever and his feats support that. He would defeat Vader easier than Marek did.

3. So, you think that a random Shadow Guardsman is going to give Marek a better fight than Darth Bane? You think that Kota, Shaak Ti, Paratus, Proxy and Vader are better than Bane?

Ah wait, I'm being trolled? That makes sense. You tipped your hand a little easy there though.

4. It is a cool story. He is not nearly as impressive as you think he is.

I'm still not hearing how he does. Bane would crush him in lightsabers before Marek could bring the Force to bare.

1. And if he were generating that energy, I'd agree. But since he isn't...

2. Cool story bro. Marek's feats indicate that he's much more powerful than Bane. And round and round we go.

3. I personally think Vader is definitely Bane's superior. As for the rest, perhaps or perhaps not, but that's not really my argument.

4. lol. One could say the same thing about Bane to you.

Nah. Marek is going to curbstomp him via the Force.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
1. And if he were generating that energy, I'd agree. But since he isn't...

2. Cool story bro. Marek's feats indicate that he's much more powerful than Bane. And round and round we go.

3. I personally think Vader is definitely Bane's superior. As for the rest, perhaps or perhaps not, but that's not really my argument.

4. lol. One could say the same thing about Bane to you.

Nah. Marek is going to curbstomp him via the Force.