Originally posted by Shakyamunison
A circles is a two dimensional slice of a sphere. It is not a sphere.The word compass is referring to something two dimensional. It is also not a sphere.
uhm... the word also means "sphere"...
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H2329&t=NKJV
Originally posted by dyajeep
uhm... the word also means "sphere"...http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H2329&t=NKJV
I don't trust your source. A sphere is not a circle. Mathematically a circle is an intersection of a sphere. They cannot be the same thing.
Originally posted by dyajeep
well, you can just say you don't trust the source if it does not suit you... but that's the meaning of the Hebrew word...
Okay, then the people who wrote the bible didn't know the difference between a circle and a sphere, because they only had one word for it. How could they know that the Earth was a sphere and not a circle if they didn't have a word that described the difference? I think the people who wrote the bible thought the Earth was flat, and the people who put the web site up wants you to think that the bible says the Earth was a sphere.
Just find a neutral source.
That's an interesting retroactive interpretation of the scripture regarding being "above a circle". Reminds me of the argument about the scripture which states "The things that are seen are made of things unseen" (paraphrasing, of course) somehow meaning that the writers of the Bible were already aware of Quantum Physics and the Atomic and Sub-Atomic Structure of Matter. Or another point of Biblical Cosmology where it talks about God creating "the firmament" and separating the waters of the Earth from the waters above the Earth so they wouldn't flood the Earth, and calling the firmament "Heaven" and some Rabbi/Preachers's will interpret that as the Earth being a geometric plane with a dome over (like a snowglobe), some will say it represents a sphere, some will say it's symbolic, and some will say something else. Same thing with the "waters above". Some say it's literal, with the 'waters' being a poetic description of the vacuum of space and arguing that the writers of the Bible were aware of the different layers of our atmosphere and properties of outer space. Others will acknowledge it just being a metaphor. Some will say it's simply poetic license regarding their perspective from the planets surface, etc.
Simply put, all the interpretations lack validity without some concrete evidence to support them. And to say that an arbitrary use of the phrase 'above the circle' means that Biblical Authors had the same knowledge of celestial bodies which we have now and were 'ahead of their time' is an incredible reach. Unless you also think that our atmosphere is Heaven and space is full of water.
Though you likely don't agree with that interpretation either.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
That's an interesting retroactive interpretation of the scripture regarding being "above a circle". Reminds me of the argument about the scripture which states "The things that are seen are made of things unseen" (paraphrasing, of course) somehow meaning that the writers of the Bible were already aware of Quantum Physics and the Atomic and Sub-Atomic Structure of Matter. Or another point of Biblical Cosmology where it talks about God creating "the firmament" and separating the waters of the Earth from the waters above the Earth so they wouldn't flood the Earth, and calling the firmament "Heaven" and some Rabbi/Preachers's will interpret that as the Earth being a geometric plane with a dome over (like a snowglobe), some will say it represents a sphere, some will say it's symbolic, and some will say something else. Same thing with the "waters above". Some say it's literal, with the 'waters' being a poetic description of the vacuum of space and arguing that the writers of the Bible were aware of the different layers of our atmosphere and properties of outer space. Others will acknowledge it just being a metaphor. Some will say it's simply poetic license regarding their perspective from the planets surface, etc.Simply put, all the interpretations lack validity without some concrete evidence to support them. And to say that an arbitrary use of the phrase 'above the circle' means that Biblical Authors had the same knowledge of celestial bodies which we have now and were 'ahead of their time' is an incredible reach. Unless you also think that our atmosphere is Heaven and space is full of water.
Though you likely don't agree with that interpretation either.
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