Khan (Into Darkness) vs. Palpatine (live action only)

Started by quanchi1127 pages

Originally posted by Werewolf582
@ Quan Chi

Why make a thread then argue that someone wins?

Due to the fact I disagree.

Palpatine with ease. The amount of self-disciple and self-control he exerted over the years to remain hidden while scheming doesn't compare to Khan's 5 mins in Into Darkness.

What a silly thread and made for no other purpose but to masturbate Cumberbatch.

Originally posted by Robtard
Palpatine with ease. The amount of self-disciple and self-control he exerted over the years to remain hidden while scheming doesn't compare to Khan's 5 mins in Into Darkness.

What a silly thread and made for no other purpose but to masturbate Cumberbatch.

Originally posted by Robtard
Palpatine with ease. The amount of self-disciple and self-control he exerted over the years to remain hidden while scheming doesn't compare to Khan's 5 mins in Into Darkness.

What a silly thread and made for no other purpose but to masturbate Cumberbatch.

So being a subtle manipulative politician relates how to this situation ? The circumstances were entirely different from the get go for Khan. He was brought back and blackmailed by Marcus. He broke free despite having the entire Federation's resources at his disposal used against him. Far more impressive than being some secretive douchebag who begged for his life against Windu the moment the dark cloud lifted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So being a subtle manipulative politician relates how to this situation ? The circumstances were entirely different from the get go for Khan. He was brought back and blackmailed by Marcus. He broke free despite having the entire Federation's resources at his disposal used against him. Far more impressive than being some secretive douchebag who begged for his life against Windu the moment the dark cloud lifted.

I guess you don't know what "willpower" is then:

will·pow·er
noun

: the ability to control yourself : strong determination that allows you to do something difficult (such as to lose weight or quit smoking)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/willpower

You're welcome, again.

Originally posted by Robtard
I guess you don't know what "willpower" is then:

will·pow·er
noun

: the ability to control yourself : strong determination that allows you to do something difficult (such as to lose weight or quit smoking)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/willpower

You're welcome, again.

Remaining hidden won't help him in this scenario. That is the point. He can't sit back behind the scenes playing both sides. To achieve his goals he had to remain hidden. In this scenario he has to exert his willpower over someone else. Khan exerted his despite having all the resources of the Federation against him. Palpatine had all the power of two sides and confusion in his favor.

Yw.

So you made a thread not truly understanding what "willpower" meant; thought it meant being some sort of a physical badass, so now you're dancing because everyone is laughing at you.

Protip: Look up the meaning of a word before using it if you're not sure.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you made a thread not truly understanding what "willpower" meant; thought it meant being some sort of a physical badass, so now you're dancing because everyone is laughing at you.

Protip: Look up the meaning of a word before using it if you're not sure.

No, I know exactly what it means. What Palpatine did while impressive doesn't apply here due to him not being secretive and his foe being aware of his agenda.

I will try to make it simple so even you can understand. Khan manipulated Kirk. Kirk himself saw him gun down his friend and mentor. He went there to personally bring Khan to justice and was manipulated despite Khan being held captive. This was after Khan subdued Kirk, Spock, and Uhura on the Klingon homeworld.

Palpatine lost in fair combat. After he lost he begged for his life from Windu. Windu refused and was going to kill him thus proving when the cat is out of the bag strong willed people exert their willpower over him.

🙂

TL;DR

Protip: Look up the meaning of a word before using it if you're not sure.

Originally posted by Robtard
TL;DR

Protip: Look up the meaning of a word before using it if you're not sure.

Another concession due to your brain not having the attention to read a few paragraphs. You always back down to evidence. Always.

I guess you don't know what "willpower" is then:

will·pow·er
noun

: the ability to control yourself : strong determination that allows you to do something difficult (such as to lose weight or quit smoking)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/willpower

You're welcome, again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So being a subtle manipulative politician relates how to this situation ? The circumstances were entirely different from the get go for Khan. He was brought back and blackmailed by Marcus. He broke free despite having the entire Federation's resources at his disposal used against him. Far more impressive than being some secretive douchebag who begged for his life against Windu the moment the dark cloud lifted.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I know exactly what it means. What Palpatine did while impressive doesn't apply here due to him not being secretive and his foe being aware of his agenda.

I will try to make it simple so even you can understand. Khan manipulated Kirk. Kirk himself saw him gun down his friend and mentor. He went there to personally bring Khan to justice and was manipulated despite Khan being held captive. This was after Khan subdued Kirk, Spock, and Uhura on the Klingon homeworld.

Palpatine lost in fair combat. After he lost he begged for his life from Windu. Windu refused and was going to kill him thus proving when the cat is out of the bag strong willed people exert their willpower over him.

🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
I guess you don't know what "willpower" is then:

will·pow·er
noun

: the ability to control yourself : strong determination that allows you to do something difficult (such as to lose weight or quit smoking)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/willpower

You're welcome, again.

It didn't relate to this thread at all. I broke it down and explained the relevance. Attention deficit disorder is a serious problem of yours.

Opening post says: "impose their own willpower", now that you actually know what "willpower" is due to the definition being posted, "willpower" suddenly doesn't "relate" to the thread anymore.

You're a silly little man with silly little shoulders and you lost again.

Originally posted by Robtard
Opening post says: "impose their own willpower", now that you actually know what "willpower" is due to the definition being posted, "willpower" suddenly doesn't "relate" to the thread anymore.

You're a silly little man with silly little shoulders and you lost again.

Being subtle and doing it under your nose isn't the same thing. Just because willpower was used doesn't mean the circumstances are relevant to this situation.

Intelligence. Once you find it please use it. It is like saying sprinting and long distance jogs are the same thing because they both involve running. Think.

You don't get to decide that the definition of "willpower" doesn't matter in a thread where "willpower" is the focus.

Go go Red Herring.

Originally posted by Robtard
You don't get to decide that the definition of "willpower" doesn't matter in a thread where "willpower" is the focus.
I didn't say the Machiavellian nature of his willpower should be ignored I said it doesn't apply here since Khan is aware of him.

Read the splendid paragraph where I broke it down. Even a chimpanzee named Robbie could understand it.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Go go Red Herring.
Go go cheerleader.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Go go cheerleader.

U mad bro?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
U mad bro?
I am having a grand time.