How angry will you be if Brian Wood's Star Wars series becomes canon?

Okay I'll be specific. 1. Luke's attitude.

Elaboration?

2. Creation of a character (Perla), only to have her go nowhere).

Aside from it not being over, *so many other stories* do that. Especially EU ones. Characters cannot hang around just known characters. The last rebellion comic did that too, I'm pretty sure the 80s SW comics did as well.

Climatic plots that quickly fizzle out and become anti-climatic.

A legit complaint, but no Waru.

Creation of whole new world (Arrochar), and then they turn into nothing.

Ok, here I have a complaint: Not creating new worlds in SW is a problem. It's supposed to be a big galaxy, almost everything should take place either at a new world, or one of a very small number of major-major worlds.

Visiting new worlds that turn out to be not-galaxy-shaking is a good thing in my view.

he creates so much stuff, and then it drifts away.

Yea, some writers do that. Often it's to set up later returns (keep in mind he might've been planning for longer than he's going to get), other times it's sloppiness, but it hardly strikes me as the greatest sin in the EU! There's countless dropped plot points out there.

Luke acting jealous and wanting to leave the rebellion.
Also I expected more from everything this guy creates. Even crappy EU from the 80's,90's had a retro feel. This is just modern bullshit

Originally posted by Darth Abonis
Luke acting jealous and wanting to leave the rebellion.

Jealousy isn't weird, this is *right* after ANH he's still quite young, and in Crystal Star he decided to join an evil cult. Maybe not the best, but certainly not the worst Luke by a long shot!

Also I expected more from everything this guy creates. Even crappy EU from the 80's,90's had a retro feel. This is just modern bullshit

Modern's.... bad? It's made nowadays, of course it's more modern.

No no I meant this is bullshit within the modern era. I'm not criticizing it for being modern, I'm just stating a fact.

How much other SW have you read? Because there is some truly dire stuff out there.

I know you're a Dark Horse fan Q, but Brian Wood's series is pretty mediocre, and this is coming from someone who's both a SW fan and a fan of his other works. He just doesn't have a good grasp of SW at all.

I made a fanon page about luke being a ***** and getting killed by darth vader and the empire wins yay

I haven't read Crystal Star, but I am also happy Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin isn't canon.

Proof it's no longer canon?
Wookiee still says it is.

Actually Wookieepedia says its legends. Everything published before April 25th is non-canon aside from ongoing series like (Star Wars by Brian Wood, Legacy Volume II, and Rebel Heist). Blade Squadron Part 1 is the only canon thing published before April 25th.

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
I know you're a Dark Horse fan Q, but Brian Wood's series is pretty mediocre, and this is coming from someone who's both a SW fan and a fan of his other works. He just doesn't have a good grasp of SW at all.

Hey, I dropped the book myself, you don't need to see me on it being not-great 🙂 I prefer Legacy 2, Dawn, Dark Times.... come to think of it, it's probably my least individual recent book of theirs.

I just think it's unexceptional 'main characters go on adventures' stuff, while revulsion/'I'd utterly hate if that's the bit that stays canon' reaction I save for the really bad, or at least the concepts that don't really fit with SW.

IG-88 is the Death Star 2! Black Fleet Crisis! Sun Crusher- it's stronger than the Death Star but it's a fighter-sized snow cone!

I mean, if the BW Star Wars is the worst SW stuff that Adonis has read.... well, all I can say is he's been fortunate 🙂

I want to know more about the null-class arcs

The IG-88, Sun Crusher and Black Fleet weren't that bad to me.

Originally posted by Darth Abonis
The IG-88, Sun Crusher and Black Fleet weren't that bad to me.

The aliens I found incredibly un-star-warsy and pointlessly evil even compared to sith, their ships somehow seemed to be based on another tech base entirely (one system producing giant huge swarms of thousands of ships that all look like balls) while everyone else ever uses ships that, while each having their own individual style, conforms to similar patterns.

The whole Yevetha thing was a horrible story concept that doesn't fit with SW, and aren't a good villain in general.

IG-88? It's a bait and switch, "this other thing that was going on was actually more important than most of the stuff going on on-screen! The Empire was doomed anyway, just at the hands of an evil robot!" plot. Lazy way to make something huge.

Sun Crusher? Aside from being a 'suddenly, even better superweapon!' thing, the story was full of tons of overpowered Deus Ex Force solutions, like just... pulling the thing out of the core of a gas giant. Power levels jumped around all over the place. None of it's technologies are ever used again in anything despite being better than everything. Yadda yadda.

Waru, Luke literally joined an evil cult to gain his force powers back.

You've named some problems, but the characterization of main characters has been far worse in the past, and 'plots don't go anywhere,' is rather minor on the list of writing sins unless it's massively more egregious than that ("Hey, what happened to Darth So-and-so and the army that was going to conquer the galaxy in a year unless stopped?" "Eh, dunno."😉.

Heck, Han Solo was a jerk to his family throughout most of the New Jedi Order books. Jacen's character was massively derailed in Legacy of the Force novels. Shadows of the Empire had Leia falling for an evil guy with magic seduction powers.

I'm seriously trying to understand why the Wood Star Wars is worth that much ire, against speaking as someone who doesn't particularly like it. If it's so incredibly bad why is it hard to get into specifics?

Han Solo is kind of a dick.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
Han Solo is kind of a dick.

Yea, kind of a dick, but NJO took it to a new level.

Originally posted by Darth Abonis
Actually Wookieepedia says its legends. Everything published before April 25th is non-canon aside from ongoing series like (Star Wars by Brian Wood, Legacy Volume II, and Rebel Heist). Blade Squadron Part 1 is the only canon thing published before April 25th.

[QUOTE=14742913]Originally posted by Q99
[B]Consider the prequels retconned the DS1 to be in construction for 19 *years*.

[QUOTE] The DS2's build time pretty much had to be retconned or the difference becomes absurd.

I agree. I've always had an issue with how fast they built the second Death Star after I learned how little time passes between the OT films. To build a Death Star 33% larger with a better superlaser in even 4 years (Right after the first was destroyed) is still impressive enough...Even if it was incomplete.

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The empire has quantity, the rebels have QUALITY that means the rebels have better soldiers, better weapons, the mon cal cruiser is slightly better then the star destroyer, and the Death Star is easily destroyed. The empire has numbers, stormtroopers are meant to swarm the enemy, not be a good successful military force.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
the rebels have QUALITY that means the rebels have better soldiers, better weapons, the mon cal cruiser is slightly better then the star destroyer, and the Death Star is easily destroyed.