The KMC Magnificent 7 VS Galactus

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
1. He's plucking Franklin when he's a fetus. Doubtful he's a warper then.

2. Then he'll pluck two Franklins. One when he's 1 day old, one whenhhe's 2 days old.

3. I bet you say that to all the hobos.

Originally posted by Epicurus
1)His birth resulted in a near fatal release of cosmic radiation, which would have killed Sue and almost every living thing in the solar system had Reed not acquired the Cosmic Control Rod to funnel away the deadly radiation. Remind me again which version of Zoom carries the Cosmic Control Rod around with himself?
2)Based on 1), good luck with that. Anyways, as shown only an experienced adult Franklin can use the power of his younger selves. Even if by some miracle Zoom manages to get his hands on a bunch of Franklin-fetuses, how does he plan to use their power to leash up Galactus?
3)Nope, only to f*cking stupid ass dumb shit hobos who come up with f*cking stupid ass dumb shit plans.

1. Hmm. As I still have space on my team (so far, only Wally/Zoom/Reed/Sue) I would like to then add either Annihilus with CCR, or Human Torch with CCR.

2. Eobard can age people. A fully grown Franklin can be achieved, if you only believe.

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/z7.jpg
http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/z8.jpg

He gets the fetuses, and then turns them into fully grown Franklins, with all their power.

3. Awkward boner time.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
1. Hmm. As I still have space on my team (so far, only Wally/Zoom/Reed/Sue) I would like to then add either Annihilus with CCR, or Human Torch with CCR.

2. Eobard can age people. A fully grown Franklin can be achieved, if you only believe.

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/z7.jpg
http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/z8.jpg

He gets the fetuses, and then turns them into fully grown Franklins, with all their power.

3. Awkward boner time.

Originally posted by Epicurus
1)IIRC, Torch no longer has the CCR. And what makes you think that Annihilus would let Reed use it instead of attempting to fight of Galactus directly with the rod?
2)Doesn't mean anything. Those would be alternate Franklins due to time travel being involved. Again, being aged is one thing, having the same level of experience/control with their powers ad Hickman's adult Franklin does is another ball game. IIRC, Franklin has aged himself to adulthood before, and he didn't demonstrate any greater control over his powerset than what he does as a child.
3)You know you want me in you, baby.

1. By that logic, none of the teams in this thread work, and will ever work together - too many agendas, villains/heroes etc. Saying that, however, Annihilus has shown his is willing to work together with others as seen in Infinity. Besides, I meant Johnny back when he DID have the CCR. Doesn't have to be the latest versions of each characters, because I specified a specific incarnation (like when people specifiy DoS Doomsday).

2. Would they really be alternate, though? IIRC Zoom is separate from other people's timelines - so when he takes people from their timelines, they are all from the same one.

3. And then on.

Edit: Your point 2 is the biggest stumbling block to my team, to be honest. My aged Franklins may or may not be up tot the task - but all I need is one of them with the experience necessary. And I still think my team has the best chance of all the ones here.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
1. By that logic, none of the teams in this thread work, and will ever work together - too many agendas, villains/heroes etc. Saying that, however, Annihilus has shown his is willing to work together with others as seen in Infinity. Besides, I meant Johnny back when he DID have the CCR. Doesn't have to be the latest versions of each characters, because I specified a specific incarnation (like when people specifiy DoS Doomsday).

2. Would they really be alternate, though? IIRC Zoom is separate from other people's timelines - so when he takes people from their timelines, they are all from the same one.

3. And then on.

something like strange (classic), constantine, thor, flash, adam warlock (classic, with gem), reed (placed inside the asgardian destroyer to elevate to trans.....) prof x and....i dunno, maybe ghost rider w/penance stare? maybe dr fate (classic)?

if he's at sufficient levels of power they still couldn't beat him, but, assuming we cherry-pick high feats, they'd give him a good run at most levels imo, especially with lending/stealing speed.

Originally posted by leonidas
something like strange (classic), constantine, thor, flash, adam warlock (classic, with gem), reed (placed inside the asgardian destroyer to elevate to trans.....) prof x and....i dunno, maybe ghost rider w/penance stare? maybe dr fate (classic)?

if he's at sufficient levels of power they still couldn't beat him, but, assuming we cherry-pick high feats, they'd give him a good run at most levels imo, especially with lending/stealing speed.

No team of heralds + 1 Trans is beating Galactus unless he's hungry to the point of starving.

what scenario are you talking about? warlock was going to use the gem on galactus but knew better than to try it because he knew it wouldn't work?? that i'd like to see.

i'm not even going to try and convince you, regardless, since we both know that would be pointless. cherry-picking just high end feats of each though, you either ARE ignorant or are being deliberately so, if you can't come up with a scenario where THAT group, working together, couldn't put down a moderately powerful galactus. this isn't a scenario where i'm using average showings.

Originally posted by leonidas
what scenario are you talking about? warlock was going to use the gem on galactus but knew better than to try it because he knew it wouldn't work?? that i'd like to see.

i'm not even going to try and convince you, regardless, since we both know that would be pointless. cherry-picking just high end feats of each though, you either ARE ignorant or are being deliberately so, if you can't come up with a scenario where THAT group, working together, couldn't put down a moderately powerful galactus. this isn't a scenario where i'm using average showings.

Warlock said Galactus had no soul to effect

not sure, you could be correct. i simply haven't seen it if that's the case. penance stare has always been a question with regards to galactus (i think one cartoon had it working on him, but that doesn't mean much, though marvel HAS been trying to do a better job i think of maintaining continuity across mediums....). strange did use a spell once to inflict quite a bit of....stress on him, so i thought it was still up in the air a bit regarding the nature of his soul though. if there is proof to the contrary, cool. 👆 i may have to change the line-up then. strange, fate, thor, flash and destroyer reed and constantine would stay, but i'd look for someone else to replace rider or adam......super adaptoid, maybe, better yet, classic amazo.....?

@leonidas: Titan is correct. Warlock stated that Galactus lacked a traditional soul which rendered the gem's power over him null and void. Based on this Warlock theorized that Galactus' spirit is like Eternity's; beyond the gem's power. Which leads me to believe that it would be useless against other Abstract characters as well.

Originally posted by leonidas
what scenario are you talking about? warlock was going to use the gem on galactus but knew better than to try it because he knew it wouldn't work?? that i'd like to see.

i'm not even going to try and convince you, regardless, since we both know that would be pointless. cherry-picking just high end feats of each though, you either ARE ignorant or are being deliberately so, if you can't come up with a scenario where THAT group, working together, couldn't put down a moderately powerful galactus. this isn't a scenario where i'm using average showings.

Move along.

No team of heralds + 1 Trans is beating Galactus unless he's starving.

Originally posted by Epicurus
@leonidas: Titan is correct. Warlock stated that Galactus lacked a traditional soul which rendered the gem's power over him null and void. Based on this Warlock theorized that Galactus' spirit is like Eternity's; beyond the gem's power. Which leads me to believe that it would be useless against other Abstract characters as well.

Pretty much. In Warlock v1 #11, he tried to use the soul gem even on a minor abstract, the Inbetweener, who proved to be completely immune to its effects:

http://i.imgur.com/9oZIwZW.jpg

Also, to clarify something in Leo's post: In FF #243, Strange reached into Galactus' mind, not soul. He specifically noted that.

Originally posted by operator616
Also, to clarify something in Leo's post: In FF #243, Strange reached into Galactus' mind, not soul. He specifically noted that.

^ Yeah, extremely hungry/starving.

Originally posted by zopzop
You don't have to bother convincing me because your opinion means nothing when something is STRAIGHT UP STATED ON PANEL :

Galacuts is "beyond the Gem's power".

Move along.

No team of heralds + 1 Trans is beating Galactus unless he's starving.

the surety and utter intransigence of your stances is so damn cute sometimes. 😂

but, cools beans with the scan. 👆 that's all i asked. as i said, i hadn't seen it, which means that i replaced adam with classic amazo.

to your point, g absolutely does not need to be starving for my team to beat him. in fact, i'm so certain of that, i'd bz you. my team vs just a sort of run-of-the-mill galactus, nothing powered up, nothing "starving". we could get a third party to pick the arc such a galactus appeared in, though i have some ideas. i get to use just high feats for my guys, as i've said repeatedly. if you're so certain, you should be able to beat me down handily. just say the word. 🙂

Originally posted by Epicurus
@leonidas: Titan is correct. Warlock stated that Galactus lacked a traditional soul which rendered the gem's power over him null and void. Based on this Warlock theorized that Galactus' spirit is like Eternity's; beyond the gem's power. Which leads me to believe that it would be useless against other Abstract characters as well.

makes sense i guess. i wonder if that would mean the penance would also fail. i swore in some comic somewhere the penance stare was effective. maybe it was an alternate g? or maybe senility is finally winning the battle..... 🙁

Originally posted by leonidas
the surety and utter intransigence of your stances is so damn cute sometimes. 😂

but, cools beans with the scan. 👆 that's all i asked. as i said, i hadn't seen it, which means that i replaced adam with classic amazo.

to your point, g absolutely does not need to be starving for my team to beat him. in fact, i'm so certain of that, i'd bz you. my team vs just a sort of run-of-the-mill galactus, nothing powered up, nothing "starving". we could get a third party to pick the arc such a galactus appeared in, though i have some ideas. i get to use just high feats for my guys, as i've said repeatedly. if you're so certain, you should be able to beat me down handily. just say the word. 🙂

Even the Destroyer is garbage (in this instance). As we've seen in Fear Itself, it couldn't even handle the Serpent. In fact, Odin beat the Worthy (supposedly high herald beings) AND the Serpent (a trans tier) by his lonesome.

GTFOoH with that noise.

PS Isn't Amazo beyond Trans?

lol couldn't beat odin? then you should have no trouble. so the bz is on then? and no, amazo doesn't start out at trans.