Quicksilver v. Khan and Voldemort.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Jeez you've been explained this many times. People fly Jet fighter without crashing. Doesn't mean they're just that fast. I can drive a car at 100 mph without crashing, doesn't mean I'm just that fast.

Nah, just ****ers rehashing the same shit you'd hear at MovieCodec and CBR

That's piloting a device, not moving under your own power

The Human Torch can fly at supersonic speeds. But he's usually flying in the air with nothing to crash into. Does that mean he can read and think at supersonic speeds? Nope. Does that mean he can kick and punch at supersonic speeds? No. Does that mean he can run at supersonic speeds? No.

If you can turn and stop yourself as well as control your own flight path with enough precision (stop where and when you want at your own leisure)

It's a common case in fiction where characters' reactions and perceptions are far above their running speed and whatnot so, bleh

Then there's the obvious that characters tend to fight similarly fast characters in their own setting far more often than not

Heck if it's all about just "Flying in a straight line" then Thor and Green Lantern are both as fast as Superman. In fact heck they might even be faster.

Good for them

Explain to me why Superman and Flash have always had a "Running" race to decide whose faster instead of just having Superman flying. Explain or concede that even comics get that Flying/Travel speed is different to the speeds you move your limbs at, you think and react at.

Flash would be faster in any case even if Superman could fly from what I know. Though I'm not a comic expert so, yeah

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Nah, just ****ers rehashing the same shit you'd hear at MovieCodec and CBR

That's piloting a device, not moving under your own power

But teleporting is moving under Nightcrawler's own power. But you ignore that. Besides both Human Torch and Storm fly under their own powers too.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
If you can turn and stop yourself as well as control your own flight path with enough precision (stop where and when you want at your own leisure)

It's a common case in fiction where characters' reactions and perceptions are far above their running speed and whatnot so, bleh

Then there's the obvious that characters tend to fight similarly fast characters in their own setting far more often than not

I see your not actually giving any clear examples just making up your own theories. Just because someone can fly at a certain speed doesn't mean they can run and think at the same speed. As proven with numerous examples like Storm, The Human Torch, Green Lantern, Thor, Iron Man e.t.c e.t.c

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Good for them

Neither of them can run as fast as they can fly. And neither of them see's bullets moving in slow motion or anything like that.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Flash would be faster in any case even if Superman could fly from what I know. Though I'm not a comic expert so, yeah

Not in the old days. Point is Superman can fly faster than he can run. That alone should tell you travel speed is completely different to combat speed.

I don't know why sloppy editing and flying speed is equal to combat speed. That's just dumb. QS stomps. He can eat a popsicle before you can blink.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But teleporting is moving under Nightcrawler's own power. But you ignore that. Besides both Human Torch and Storm fly under their own powers too.

He's not crossing distance. He's ignoring it entirely. Teleportation has nothing to do with speed

I see your not actually giving any clear examples just making up your own theories. Just because someone can fly at a certain speed doesn't mean they can run and think at the same speed. As proven with numerous examples like Storm, The Human Torch, Green Lantern, Thor, Iron Man e.t.c e.t.c

Neither of them can run as fast as they can fly. And neither of them see's bullets moving in slow motion or anything like that.

Again, it's a common case where many characters in fiction have massive reactions and attack speed/flight/whatever else, but aren't shown crossing distance by running in short timeframes. Though I suppose if you want examples, ****ers like Kratos, 40K Space Marines, hell, even DBZ characters, Sailor Moon or ****ers like Thanos and Dormammu have this kind of thing

Basically just lolfiction, in a word

Not in the old days. Point is Superman can fly faster than he can run. That alone should tell you travel speed is completely different to combat speed.

Well I wouldn't know about then. I've only read a few comics here and there

DBZ characters can fly faster than they can run. Nobody's going to detract their flight speed as "travel speed"

Quicksilver would Demolish Khan before Khan could blink. Voldermort might be a challenge if he can turn to smoke before QS lays a smackdown on him. Id probably still go Quicksilver to take both in the end.