Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Was he holding back when he hit Hulk in the face with the hammer or against Kurse?
Against Hulk, I don't believe he used his full power, no. He did seem like he was trying to calm Banner down, or at least subdue rather than kill him.
Plus, he was winning, so he could have easily seen no need to bring out his best attacks.
To me, Kurse was just a different animal entirely. Even Thor's best just couldn't cut it against him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are a dupe that is for sure,I disagree.
Hulk left to crush the man flying the jet. Hulk was winning. There is no one to distract the hulk here to save Superman.
Your dodging
Based on?
Wow a man in a jet that's so impressive. Even if he was he still took a lot of damage. Superman breaks hulk.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Against Hulk, I don't believe he used his full power, no. He did seem like he was trying to calm Banner down, or at least subdue rather than kill him.Plus, he was winning, so he could have easily seen no need to bring out his best attacks.
To me, Kurse was just a different animal entirely. Even Thor's best just couldn't cut it against him.
Well he hit him with that hammer as hard as he has hit anyone else. There has not been any hammer hits above that one. They all register pretty much the same way, it puts people down, but they get back up. With Kurse he just flicked it away. With MoS senses and speed and strength he could do the same with the hammer.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk pounding him. We see how powerful he is against the leviathan, Thor, and Loki.All fair game. Supermans strength failed him with that thing whereas your showings are not indicative of the Hulks strength failing him.
You mean that Leviathan that was about to fall over the Avengers and that Ironman finished off. Not saying it isn't impressive but...not nearly as impressive as flying out of the Phantom Zone of toppling buildings by clashing with Zod and having satellites tossed at him. he also took a flying train w/o much of a problem.
Um...his strength failed to do sufficient damage to Abomination which resulted in Hulk being kicked through a building. Seems like a failing to me.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaSomething itself capable of easily smashing through buildings Hulk stopped effortlessly.
You mean that Leviathan that was about to fall over the Avengers and that Ironman finished off. Not saying it isn't impressive but...not nearly as impressive as flying out of the Phantom Zone of toppling buildings by clashing with Zod and having satellites tossed at him. he also took a flying train w/o much of a problem.Um...his strength failed to do sufficient damage to Abomination which resulted in Hulk being kicked through a building. Seems like a failing to me.
Hulk beat abomination.
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Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Well he hit him with that hammer as hard as he has hit anyone else. There has not been any hammer hits above that one. They all register pretty much the same way, it puts people down, but they get back up. With Kurse he just flicked it away. With MoS senses and speed and strength he could do the same with the hammer.
Not sure I agree, but fair enough.
In a one on one fight, like I said, I'd back Superman. I just worry that a team can have at least one meat shield distracting him long enough for someone else to get an attack in.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Something itself capable of easily smashing through buildings Hulk stopped effortlessly.Hulk beat abomination.
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Considering it was still moving when Hulk hit it, "stopped" wouldn't be the best choice of words. Also the World Engine beam Supes overpowered that was flattening cars and buildings was demonstratively more impressive: especially when you considering that Supes was weakend while doing it.
Yeah after getting beat up by Abomination. He still got kicked through a building after failing to do sufficient damage. Oh and if we go back to Thor, the guy was scared of 30,000 ft drop, Supes crashed/flew into a building from space.
Also how do you supposed either of them would deal with heat visions or a speed blitz, because you did agree that Supes was faster.
And just like that we have Hulk & Thor vs Supes...again.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
What's his most powerful hammer hit we see in your opinion?
In general? Probably when he destroyed the bridge. He was really smacking the shit out of that thing.
Against an actual person?
There's a few where I don't think he's particularly holding back. Probably when he hit the Destroyer. The Frost Giants. When he was fighting Malekith (sp?) I didn't consider him to be holding back.
For me, if Thor's going to swing with all his might, then to me, he means to straight up murder who he's hitting. I don't think he'd seriously try to kill Loki or Hulk like that. Just my opinion.
His hardest hammer hits where not killing Malekith though. They were sending him flying back, so from that I assume that he is hitting everyone the same way. The bridge took him a long time to destroy too and thats with him going all out. From his fights too you have to assume all the people he is fighting are Plot devices themselves and have uber durability.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
His hardest hammer hits where not killing Malekith though. They were sending him flying back, so from that I assume that he is hitting everyone the same way. The bridge took him a long time to destroy too and thats with him going all out. From his fights too you have to assume all the people he is fighting are Plot devices themselves and have uber durability.
Just because they weren't killing him doesn't mean they wouldn't hurt Superman. Malekith was empowered, after all.
Superman annihilates Storm with heat vision, speedblitzes Thor into several continents, after grabbing his hammer because Supes definitely qualifies as worthy, piledrives his way past everything Magneto tries to throw at him and punches his head off, and launches Hulk into space in the path of an oncoming asteroid.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaHe stopped and overpowered its forward momentum despite the staggering weight differential.
Considering it was still moving when Hulk hit it, "stopped" wouldn't be the best choice of words. Also the World Engine beam Supes overpowered that was flattening cars and buildings was demonstratively more impressive: especially when you considering that Supes was weakend while doing it.Yeah after getting beat up by Abomination. He still got kicked through a building after failing to do sufficient damage. Oh and if we go back to Thor, the guy was scared of 30,000 ft drop, Supes crashed/flew into a building from space.
Also how do you supposed either of them would deal with heat visions or a speed blitz, because you did agree that Supes was faster.
And just like that we have Hulk & Thor vs Supes...again.
No, it was just terraforming the atmosphere and was not that impressive at all. It is just an exaggerated feat.
He defeated Abomination so I fail to see your point. I never said Thor was as durable as Superman so another moot point.
He can't avoid Hulk forever. All too telling that you feel he needs to avoid him to make it a fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He stopped and overpowered its forward momentum despite the staggering weight differential.No, it was just terraforming the atmosphere and was not that impressive at all. It is just an exaggerated feat.
He defeated Abomination so I fail to see your point. I never said Thor was as durable as Superman so another moot point.
He can't avoid Hulk forever. All too telling that you feel he needs to avoid him to make it a fight.
It was still moving and would've toppled on top of the Avengers were it not for Iron Man.
Both machines were adding mass to the planet, so yeah it did have a similar effect.
Hulks strength failed him at that point...along with the majority of the fight in which Abomination was dominating him in.
What speed feats does Hulk have that would warrant he could tag Superman? Also nothing Hulk can do is matching being tossed through buildings or planet re-entry.