Juggernaut, Magneto Vs Thor, Hulk

Started by Time Immemorial2 pages
Originally posted by Arachnid1
The fact that he coulhis suit at will seems to imply that to be honest. It wouldn't make sense for it to not have Asgardian enchantments on it.

This isn't proof to him apparently. The fact that Odin can take it away, and Thor can call it upon will to d summon/materialize is magic/enchantments.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
The fact that he could summon/materialize his suit at will seems to imply that to be honest. It wouldn't make sense for it to not have Asgardian enchantments on it.

Sure it would. It could just as easily be him using magic to summon the armor as it being magical armor. Either way, just because Thor can summon it does not mean it is impervious to Magento's powers. His hammer, for example, is specifcally mentioned to be unable to be lifted by anyone who is unworthy, that's never mentioned in conjunction with his armor.

So, even if we assume it is magic armor, Magneto still crushes him in it.

Originally posted by ares834
Sure it would. It could just as easily be him using magic to summon the armor as it being magical armor. Either way, just because Thor can summon it does not mean it is impervious to Magento's powers. His hammer, for example, is specifcally mentioned to be unable to be lifted by anyone who is unworthy, that's never mentioned in conjunction with his armor.

The fact that he can only summon his armor when he has the hammer is proof that they go together.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Slow moving brides and stadiums vs Thor flying through or throws him hammer at him or walks right up to and punches him him while he is busy controlling that lift?

It doesn't take that much effort controlling it. Also while the hammer is fast it can be intercepted by stuff. Thor flying directly at Mags, as crude as it may be, might be the most effective approach.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The fact that he can only summon his armor when he has the hammer is proof.

lol no.

In fact, if anything, it's evidence to the contrary.

Originally posted by ares834
lol no.

In fact, if anything, it's evidence to the contrary.

Not really. When did he summon it without the hammer?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Not really. When did he summon it without the hammer?

What? Where did I say he summoned it without the hammer? This is like the fifth time you've argued against a claim I never made.

Originally posted by ares834
What? Where did I say he summoned it without the hammer? This is like the fifth time you've argued against a claim I never made.

You dodging now.

Originally posted by ares834
lol no.

In fact, if anything, it's evidence to the contrary.

No metal from Asgard is similar to any earthly metal. There is no reason to assume that Thors suit or hammer are susceptible to magnetism, until its shown in the movies. Especially when there are plenty of real world metals which are not magnetic themselves. In this case, the burden of proof would be on you to prove Magneto can control the suit, which isn't really possible.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
No metal from Asgard is similar to any earthly metal. There is no reason to assume that Thors suit or hammer are susceptible to magnetism, until its shown in the movies. Especially when there are plenty of real world metals which are not magnetic themselves. In this case, the burden of proof would be on you to prove Magneto can control the suit, which isn't really possible.

Magento is shown manipulating non-magnetic metals. And he is shown manipulating non-"earthly" metals as well as seen when he manipulates Adamantium which (as seen in Origins) came from space. As it is, Magneto has shown the ability to manipulate metal regardless of it's properties. I see no reason to assume Thor's armor is going to somehow resist it.

Adamantium is an alloy and not a pure element, as shown. Its mixed with other metals. Hence why he can control it.

Originally posted by ares834
Magento is shown manipulating non-magnetic metals. And he is shown manipulating non-"earthly" metals as well as seen when he manipulates Adamantium which (as seen in Origins) came from space. As it is, Magneto has shown the ability to manipulate metal regardless of it's properties. I see no reason to assume Thor's armor is going to somehow resist it.

I accept your concession run away boy. Adamentium is not a metal..it's a metallic compound mixed with metal.

The beating Hulk gave Loki is. >>>>> consequences of falling from helicarrier. The force behind Hulk's blows have to be greater than hitting the ground at terminal velocity.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I accept your concession run away boy. Adamentium is not a metal..it's a metallic compound mixed with metal.

😂

Magneto calls it a metal in X-men. As does Stryker in X2.

I'm pretty sure magneto can control Thor's armor, there is no valid reason to think otherwise and also magneto can use metal to break Thor's neck with it but I'm not sure about Hulk!

Originally posted by ares834
😂

Magneto calls it a metal in X-men. As does Stryker in X2.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Adamantium is an alloy and not a pure element, as shown. Its mixed with other metals. Hence why he can control it.