Yoda vs ROTS Darth Sidious

Originally posted by carthage
Sidious takes this again with mid difficulty.

Originally posted by carthage
I said they were on the same tier, I just said that Palpatine edges him out by a little.

Originally posted by carthage
No, but I distinctly remember Yoda running after losing

He also couldn't kill Yoda as that would've ****ed up continuity issues with the OT, ergo making Luke being able to defeat Vader a virtual impossibility.

Nice try though 👆

Seriously? And you don't think Yoda killing Sidious wouldn't have been a massive continuity issue?

I'd go with Yoda. The movie and the season 6 vision both seem to give him a slight edge over Sidious.

In the movie:
Sidious was disarmed first and Yoda's tutaminis did overpower Sidious.

In the vision:
Yoda is pushing back Sidious in saber combat and his tutaminis overpowers Sidious.

I never read the novel, but I believe its description has Sidious being too much for Yoda. I would imagine the movie and the cartoon would overrule this though.

In the vision yoda resisted palpatines lightning while saving anakin

There is nothing that proves Yoda's superiority in saber skills but GL made it obvious that Sidious has greater force powers as he can easily TK a couple of senator platforms and throw them at Yoda while Yoda only tries to dodge them and is barely able to throw back one platform at his opponent. Sidious doesn't even see Yoda as a threat. He wouldn't laugh so much during the entire duel if he thought he was in danger.

Sidious doesn't see Yoda as a threat? Ever? 😐

I agree with Temp here. Sidious isn't so far above Yoda that he never sees him as a legitimate threat. In the beginning of the fight (prior to them drawing their lightsabers) Sidious tried to run away from Yoda, but was then forced into confrontation. Sidious wouldn't even attempt to run from someone he doesn't deem a threat.

Originally posted by carthage
Sidious takes this again with mid difficulty.

Originally posted by Stigma
We see them fight on screen and it was a stalemate /thread.

Call it a stalemate, even though I provided a quote where it clearly said Yoda was no match for him, and Yoda from the fight.

Lol

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sidious doesn't see Yoda as a threat? Ever? 😐

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I agree with Temp here. Sidious isn't so far above Yoda that he never sees him as a legitimate threat. In the beginning of the fight (prior to them drawing their lightsabers) Sidious tried to run away from Yoda, but was then forced into confrontation. Sidious wouldn't even attempt to run from someone he doesn't deem a threat.

Of course he is a threat to him and Sidious is very well aware of it. What I mean is that Sidious has indeed waited a long time for that moment. It really doesn't make sense for him to attempt to run away after declaring that. I never really understood that part but then again, Prequals don't make sense in general so Im not that shocked by that scene.

I mean that he was anticipating this confrontation and he was prepared for it. After the saber fight, they start using their force powers on each other and at that point Sidious has the higher ground and is dominating the fight. That specific scene where he throws the platforms at Yoda depicts Sidious' superiority when it comes to force powers.

This duel doesn't give a clue about who is a better saber wielder but it shows who the mightier force user is. It is so close that none of the sides get to kill his opponent though if there is any victor in that scene, it is Sidious.

Meh. Scholastic say they are equals.

"Yoda's knowledge of the Force makes him just as powerful as Darth Sidious."
-Mysterious of the Jedi

"Sidious battles with passion and fury, only to be matched every blow by Yoda's calm, measured skill."
-Beware of the Sith

"Yoda is an immensely powerful Jedi who can control blue crackling Force lightning."
-Mysterious of the Jedi

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"Yoda's knowledge of the Force makes him just as powerful as Darth Sidious."
-Mysterious of the Jedi

I know this one and it makes it pretty clear. Still though, Sidious did dominate Yoda with his TK. Its in the movie so no sources are needed to deny that. In the enitre fight, it was either both sides fighting equally or Yoda defending.

Originally posted by Sinious
I know this one and it makes it pretty clear. Still though, Sidious did dominate Yoda with his TK. Its in the movie so no sources are needed to deny that. In the enitre fight, it was either both sides fighting equally or Yoda defending.

Not really domination. The movie also shows Yoda disarming Sidious, reflecting his lightning with his saber, and absorbing it with his bare hands.

Again, I think they are equal. Im just saying that if there is a winning side to it 51/49 it should be Sidious.

P.S I just finished season 6 so I have huge respect for Yoda right now.

Sidious disarmed Yoda too with his lightning technically.

Originally posted by Sinious
Sidious disarmed Yoda too with his lightning technically.

Indeed. Although TCWs also makes it pretty clear that Yoda can deflect his lightning with his saber.

Originally posted by carthage
Call it a stalemate, even though I provided a quote where it clearly said Yoda was no match for him, and Yoda from the fight.

Lol

No, you didn't. Could not defeat =/= was no match

Yoda could not defeat Sidious, but Sidious couldn't defeat Yoda either. Their duel was extremely close, and at the end was decided by fate. After his fall from podium, Yoda had to run because of Sidious' highground, and army of clones on his side.

Originally posted by Zett
No, you didn't. Could not defeat =/= was no match

Yoda could not defeat Sidious, but Sidious couldn't defeat Yoda either. Their duel was extremely close, and at the end was decided by fate. After his fall from podium, Yoda had to run because of Sidious' highground, and army of clones on his side.

Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.
--Taken from The New Essential Chronology

Yoda SLAUGHTERHOUSE

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yoda SLAUGHTERHOUSE

Originally posted by Sinious
There is nothing that proves Yoda's superiority in saber skills but GL made it obvious that Sidious has greater force powers as he can easily TK a couple of senator platforms and throw them at Yoda while Yoda only tries to dodge them and is barely able to throw back one platform at his opponent. Sidious doesn't even see Yoda as a threat. He wouldn't laugh so much during the entire duel if he thought he was in danger.

I am definitely going to have to disagree with your analysis of this scene. I felt this scene perfectly depicted the difference between the dark side and the light side. Yes, both combatants were using the same power, TK, but they were using in very different ways.

Because of the dark side being more chaotic and destructive, we have Sidious laughing and flinging many senate pods haphazardly downwards at Yoda.

Because the light side is more orderly and controlled, we have Yoda focusing on one senate pod and directing it upwards at Sidious. It got the job done and Sidious lost the high ground (well some of it).

Yoda was not not flinging senate pods because he couldn't. He wasn't doing it because

1) It would not have helped him.
2) It's against his very nature to abuse the force so carelessly. Let's not forget about the scene in AotC where Anakin is with Padme and he says he would get in trouble if Obi-Wan saw him using the force to play with food.

On second thought, scratch that. Let's forget that scene and the entire movie.