Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They can do that whilst fighting 4 super tough opponents?One of which was speed blitzing an AMPED Wally West?
Thor can be mind controlled by Eradicator as Zoom distracts him. Surfer and Superman vs Thor, Zoom (who has already blitzed Superman), Cyborg Superman (who can be amped by Eradicator) AND Qztr, who is a planet buster, and essentially unkillable........
Not likely.
Let me deal with you now.
Majestic
The Doctor(Shaman)
TAO
Absorbing Man
Lol.
Your solution for dealing with a guy who, once more, let me reiterate, was blitzing an amped Wally West, who was moving so fast speedsters couldn't react to him...
Is sending two glass cannons (Doctor/TAO) against him?
Qztr teleports Absorbing Man to another galaxy.
Zoom takes TAO/Doctor out. Potentially Absorbing Man too.
Leaving the rest of my team to deal with Majestic.
So far, it looks like my rosters are still top (good thread, carver).
Street level team:
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood.
Low meta:
Multiple Man
Maverick
Ambrose Chase
Long shot
High meta:
Batman 1M
Invisible Woman
I will add more depending on the circumstances, but golem only had 2 guys on his team.
High Herald:
Qztr
Hunter Zolomon
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So far, it looks like my rosters are still top (good thread, carver).Street level team:
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood.Low meta:
Multiple Man
Maverick
Ambrose Chase
Long shotHigh meta:
Batman 1M
Invisible Woman
I will add more depending on the circumstances, but golem only had 2 guys on his team.High Herald:
Qztr
Hunter Zolomon
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing.
Street
Shang
Batman 🙂 (already beat Bane)
Bullseye
Promethius
Low Meta
X treme (top tier martial artist...ran through Shatterstar and the X force. Throw projectiles that doesn't miss and once blood is drawn he can boil you from the inside out). Spiderman like agility and super speed (probably faster. He blitzed the X force before they had the chance to react).
Gorgon (stone stare)
Omega Red (death spores)
Blink (turn the entire battle field into a bfr field. Can't move without falling inside of a hole that could probably drop you inside the sun.)
High Meta
Miss Martian
Emma Frost
Northstar
Grey Hulk
High Herald
Surfer
The Runner (he will fight Zoom. Not only does he possess true speed, he has the ability to affect Zooms mentality).
Captain Atom (can slow down time while moving as fast as Flash. Can screw around with atoms...the guy can do anything)
New Sun (a being made out of energy and he can blow you up from the inside out just by looking at you)
Originally posted by carver9
StreetShang
Batman 🙂 (already beat Bane)
Bullseye
Promethius
Bullseye would get whupped by Drakon. Prometheus without prep isn't all that; not to mention, his database only includes data on heroes. None of mine are. Rose Tattoo would kill them.....
Low Meta
X treme (top tier martial artist...ran through Shatterstar and the X force. Throw projectiles that doesn't miss and once blood is drawn he can boil you from the inside out). Spiderman like agility and super speed (probably faster. He blitzed the X force before they had the chance to react).
Gorgon (stone stare)
Omega Red (death spores)
Blink (turn the entire battle field into a bfr field. Can't move without falling inside of a hole that could probably drop you inside the sun.)
Not with Longshot there to help my team out. And again, Ambrose Chase stops time. He isn't 'just' a speedster. Gorgom/OR/X treme are all super fast - but Ambrose has the time stop. Would he be able to do anything before your team does it? Yes. Because luck is on their side.
Or I just bury Gorgon in Multiple Men stone statues lol.
High MetaMiss Martian
Emma Frost
Northstar
Grey Hulk
I add to my team of Batman 1M and Invisible Woman:
Abomination
Mortal Hercules (with all of his standard equipment).
Northstar is the biggest problem, what with his speed. Can Bat 1M create enough avatars to soul suck Northstar? Debatable. As long as IW can create a shield for the team (as she often does) then there's nothing Northstar can do.
With regards to your psychics, Shield of Perseus will take care of them.
High HeraldSurfer
The Runner (he will fight Zoom. Not only does he possess true speed, he has the ability to affect Zooms mentality).
Captain Atom (can slow down time while moving as fast as Flash. Can screw around with atoms...the guy can do anything)
New Sun (a being made out of energy and he can blow you up from the inside out just by looking at you)
Runner is Trans.
I'd argue DCnU Cap is above HH too.
New Sun can be dealt with by Qztr.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.Your solution for dealing with a guy who, once more, let me reiterate, was blitzing an amped Wally West, who was moving so fast speedsters couldn't react to him...
Is sending two glass cannons (Doctor/TAO) against him?
Qztr teleports Absorbing Man to another galaxy.
Zoom takes TAO/Doctor out. Potentially Absorbing Man too.
Leaving the rest of my team to deal with Majestic.
TAO's power works on sight.
ZOOM monologues and he is done.
The Doctor can tank an initial hit.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
TAO's power works on sight.ZOOM monologues and he is done.
The Doctor can tank an initial hit.
Tao's powers work on sight, yes, but he has to talk.
Zolomon is able to blitz Jay Garrick, who is a damn sight faster than either Doctor or Tao.
Even when monologuing, he would be way above their speed. Again, he was so fast, a BLOODLUSTED Wally was unable to understand what he was saying until he slowed himself down just to make him understand.
The rest of the 'fight'
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348889-file0014a.jpg
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
TAO's powers can work with a simple facial movement.CANON!
......
Zoom exists outside of time. A facial movement is great, but he still needs time.
Wally needed Bart, Jay AND Jesse Quick, just to be able to interact with him. Even then, like he said, he lived 'between the ticks of a second'
My try
Street level team:
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood
vs
Foreniger
Beldame- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=561
Taskmaster
Baron Zemo
Low meta:
Multiple Man
Maverick
Ambrose Chase
Long shot
vs
Sue Richards
Tempo- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=1312
Kaine
Domino
High meta:
Batman 1M
Invisible Woman
vs
Centurius- Centurius
Zero - http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=867
Angler- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=1535
Glorian- http://marvel.com/universe/Glorian
Bloodscream- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=230
High Herald:
Qztr
Hunter Zolomon
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing?
vs
Nebulon
Overmind
Morg/w WOL
Goblyn Queen
Cool matchups, I'll try and break them down.
Originally posted by golem370
My try
Street level team:
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hoodvs
Foreniger
Beldame- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=561
Taskmaster
Baron Zemo
Beldame looks the toughest, but the others can be dealt with. I am open to being convinced.
Low meta:
Multiple Man
Maverick
Ambrose Chase
Long shotvs
Sue Richards
Tempo- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=1312
Kaine
Domino
High meta:
Batman 1M
Invisible Womanvs
Centurius- Centurius
Zero - http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=867
Angler- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=1535
Glorian- http://marvel.com/universe/Glorian
Bloodscream- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=230
I will admit, I have not heard of many of your picks. Are you sure they are in the right tier? Based on their bios, I am inclined to say not? But am happy to be convinced.
IOW: tough match for my team. I've subsequently added mortal Hercules (see my match with carver above), who has the shield of Perseus, which 1-shot kills your entire team (it turns them all into stone). This is especially true with Bloodscream, Herc is tailor made to kill him. I also added Abomination, although I wanted Miss Martian, who I now swap for.
High Herald:
Qztr
Hunter Zolomon
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing?vs
Nebulon
Overmind
Morg/w WOL
Goblyn Queen
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
......Zoom exists outside of time. A facial movement is great, but he still needs time.
Wally needed Bart, Jay AND Jesse Quick, just to be able to interact with him. Even then, like he said, he lived 'between the ticks of a second'
I hereby DISQUALIFY ZOOM from the High herald tier!
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool matchups, I'll try and break them down.Beldame looks the toughest, but the others can be dealt with. I am open to being convinced. Leech for Sue.
Glorian can use Tachyon giving him beyond light speed movement and the ability to warp reality within a ten mile radius
Invisible Woman is a High Meta. Ineligible. But the others look to be a good match for mine, except Longshot's luck > Domino's. Maverick would deal with Kaine.
Kaine is stronger and faster
I will admit, I have not heard of many of your picks. Are you sure they are in the right tier? Based on their bios, I am inclined to say not? But am happy to be convinced.
IOW: tough match for my team. I've subsequently added mortal Hercules (see my match with carver above), who has the shield of Perseus, which 1-shot kills your entire team (it turns them all into stone). This is especially true with Bloodscream, Herc is tailor made to kill him. I also added Abomination, although I wanted Miss Martian, who I now swap for.
Qztr can take care of your team on his own. [/B]
If He is able to defeat my team then he has to be higher than high herald because Morg alone is high herald.
