Revan was permantly learning upprading his own power knowlege way before the mandalorian's war......
With his various masters.... Time pass studying the 300 Holocron at Trayus academmy on malachor V.....
Revan was the heart of the force with pur raw power and one of the best training than a force user can obtain......
H**** **** ****! People take stuff out of context. I have to confess I only managed to read part of this threat before I got bored of the bickering and skipped to the end, but there are a few things that I would like to clarify. Hopefully someone has already pointed out a few if not all of these things.
First Zannah only beat Bane because the battle took place on Ambria, although this also may have occurred if the fight had taken place near another dark side nexus. The energy for Zannah's dark side force tendrils did not come from her but from the dark side energy in lake Natth. It is stated more or less in Dynasty of Evil that Zannah used the power in lake Natth as a last ditch attempt to win. She was on the verge of losing the duel.
Also I have read the Bane series about 5 times and listened to it on audio books 5+ times as well. I absolutely no memory of Zannah being in the part of the forest that was destroyed by Bane's ritual let alone protecting herself with a force bubble.
Also Zannah when she was a child only was able to kill the Jedi because they were completely taken by surprise and did not have their force shield up. The 2 Jedi were not expecting any danger from Rain. This is not I repeat not and impressive feat for a dark lord, ANY dark lord. She did not tear through any barriers like Bane did with Foharg. Zannah, Bane or Revan could all easily do that if they could catch a jedi or sith by surprise without even exerting themselves.
Oh and someone said if I remember correctly that Vitiate didn't curb stomp Revan. Vitiate totally curb stomped Revan. It wasn't even close.
Next Revan has the strength of will to resist force torture for roughly 300 years by vitiate and actually influence him while resisting. Zannah's illusions while very powerful are moot in Revan's case.
Revan can absorb force lightning unless its on the power scale of Vitiate or Abeloth for raw power. Given that neither Zannah nor Bane show this ability and more to the point in I Jedi it's stated that energy absorption is an innate force ability not something you can simply learn I must assume neither Bane nor Zannah have the ability.
Also its not clear if Revan had an innate gift for Sorcery but it is possible since Bane learned a great many rituals from him.
Conclusion I give this to Revan without question assuming the battle takes place without a dark side nexus. Zannah might win with a dark side nexus but I still give the edge to Revan due to his extensive knowledge of sorcery even if he doesn't have the innate gift for it like Zannah does. It negates enough of her advantage.
If you want to be technical, Revan can partially absorb lightning as powerful as Vitiate's
Kind of a given when much weaker lightning incinerated Nyriss despite managing to get off a Force Barrier to admittedly no actual effect
If Revan couldn't somewhat match the energy behind Vitiate's lightning, he'd of been ashes too.
Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
If you want to be technical, Revan can partially absorb lightning as powerful as Vitiate'sKind of a given when much weaker lightning incinerated Nyriss despite managing to get off a Force Barrier to admittedly no actual effect
If Revan couldn't somewhat match the energy behind Vitiate's lightning, he'd of been ashes too.
Ya I didn't clarify that thanks for the correction.
Originally posted by zEniX
The fires had killed most of the other bouncers. The survivors had all gone
mad. All except Laa. Somehow Rain had saved her. She’d used the Force,
shielding them both from the burning death and destruction, though she
wasn’t quite sure how she’d done it. It had just sort of .. . happened. Now
she and Laa had nobody left but each othe
It was more of a showing of potential, and she never replicated a barrier showing on that level again. Also Bane was amped by the darkside energies of the Korriban academy when he killed Fohargh:
"Korriban was the ancestral home of the Sith," Qordis explained. "This planet is a place
of great power; the dark side lives and breathes in the very core of this world."
He paused and slowly extended his skeletal hand, palm upward. It almost seemed as if he
was cradling something unseen-something precious and invaluable-in his claw-like fingers.
"This temple we stand in was built many thousands of years ago to collect and focus that
power. Here you can feel the dark side at its strongest?’ He closed his fist so tightly
that his long fingernails cut into his palm, drawing blood. "You have been chosen because
you have great potential," he whispered. "Great things are expected of the apprentices
here on Korriban. The training is difficult, but the rewards are great for those who
succeed."
-Path of destruction
Ah thanks I found it.
"She remembered what Laa had said just before the entire forest
had exploded in flames: Bad dreams, Rain. Death dreams. The fires had killed most of the other bouncers. The survivors had all gone
mad. All except Laa. Somehow Rain had saved her. She’d used the Force,
shielding them both from the burning death and destruction, though she
wasn’t quite sure how she’d done it. It had just sort of .. . happened. Now
she and Laa had nobody left but each other."
I would like to point out however that some bouncers clearly survived the inferno even without shielding pointing to this not being that impressive of a feat. Probably no more than holding off a hot forest fire and I am quite sure Zannah could do that as a Dark Lord.
As to your point about Korriban Foharg was also benefiting from it at the time. All the Sith apprentices although this was moderated by there force sensitivity. More to the point I don't get why it's relevent. The unknown world was stated to be far stronger in the dark side and Bane couldn't break through Kas'im's force shield there even after gathering power.
Originally posted by carthage
It isn't impressive. But to be honest Zannah has very few good showings of power in her "prime"Revan as of SOR could LOLSTOMP her.
True. I really like Drew Karpyshyn's writing, but he focused too much on Bane in the last book. It was hard for me to buy Zannah killing Bane when all we had really was Karpyshyn's word she was roughly equal to him in power. Luceno made the same mistake in Darth Plagueis by not showing Darth Sidious's powers either. I felt like Plagueis got cheep shotted by an inferior apprentice, unless that was Luceno's point. Which, I suppose, I actually think it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTQeCa9u97k
I can proove than Revan acess the holocron during the mandalorian war !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7pIRsg62Y4
Revan learn to convert Jedi in the trayus academy during the mandalorian war....
Now I know wich holocron he pick up XD !