Originally posted by jaden101Due to futuristic technology or a ship designed solely for combat.
The capabilities of the star trek ships being constantly getting blown to pieces. Great feats. I notice you're no longer arguing the point about numbers. Concession accepted.Yes, Nero used the red matter as a weapon to destroy a planet. The Necros don't reside on a planet. You lose again.
The fact that you're even arguing that Khan has even a sniff of a chance against the Lord Marshall shows how stupid you are. I think you might have borderline mental retardation. Tragic.
The red matter can destroy their mother ship. 😂
Khan is smarter, has superior healing abilities, and superior weaponry, and has superior strength.
Lord Marshal is overrated. Most of his speed wins points not fights. Look how many attacks Riddick outright tanked.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to futuristic technology or a ship designed solely for combat.The red matter can destroy their mother ship. 😂
Khan is smarter, has superior healing abilities, and superior weaponry, and has superior strength.
Lord Marshal is overrated. Most of his speed wins points not fights. Look how many attacks Riddick outright tanked.
1. The Narada is only 'futuristic' compared to the rest of the shitty ST vessels.
2. The entire Necromonger fleet and their entire civilisation is designed to conquer other civilisations
3. Using red matter to destroy a ship is possible cause it happened to that shitty mining ship. It wasn't used as a targeted weapon in that manner in ST though. And it took all of it to do it.
4. Khan loses to the Lord Marshall and loses in a ***** stomp. Lord Marshall takes his soul. The end.
Originally posted by jaden1011. The St vessels showed greater combat and weaponry capabilities than the necroverse ships. That is for sure.
1. The Narada is only 'futuristic' compared to the rest of the shitty ST vessels.2. The entire Necromonger fleet and their entire civilisation is designed to conquer other civilisations
3. Using red matter to destroy a ship is possible cause it happened to that shitty mining ship. It wasn't used as a targeted weapon in that manner in ST though. And it took all of it to do it.
4. Khan loses to the Lord Marshall and loses in a ***** stomp. Lord Marshall takes his soul. The end.
2. Yes, an entire civilization designed to bring more into the fold and conquer planet by planet is needed whereas in Star Trek you have vessels and weapons capable of doing so rather quickly.
3. They could teleport the red matter in anywhere. Do they have shielding that can prevent such a tactic ? Saying mining vessel when it has greater feats than any crappy Necroverse ship is well, fanboyism.
4. All you have to do is resist by strength of will. Khan has one of the most formidable sense of himself than most characters. Khan would wreck the guy not strong enough to defeat a Furyan. Poor thing was grabbing weapons and begging for others to help him. He isn't strong nor brilliant by any means.
Originally posted by quanchi112
blah blah blah. Things. Stuff. Gibberish. I love Benedict Cumberbatch and Matthew McConaughey and want them to double team me.
Come back when your fleets of star trek ships don't all get destroyed cos the current standings are that star trek had 1 ship survive and the necro empire had 1 destroyed.
Originally posted by jaden101Superior capabilities, weaponry, transportational abilities, and red matter.
Come back when your fleets of star trek ships don't all get destroyed cos the current standings are that star trek had 1 ship survive and the necro empire had 1 destroyed.
You not being able to respond is further making the point you're a clod who couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superior capabilities, weaponry, transportational abilities, and red matter.You not being able to respond is further making the point you're a clod who couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag.
I don't need to respond further. I've defeated you again. To the point where you had to make stuff up. You didn't even know your own argument. I had to tell you how many ships and world's reboot trek had when you mindlessly bleated about superior numbers. When proven wrong you never brought it up again. All your ships were destroyed except 1 which was extremely badly damaged. Only 1 necro ship was destroyed. The combined planetary defences reboot trek has shown to try and repel a necro attack has been...none. Zero. Zilch. Nada. The total number of species conquered by your beloved ST bunch combined? Zero. Nil. None.
If it was a mining competition or a gay face tattoos competition or a 'how to make exaggerated movements with your mouth while saying your own name' competition then I'm sure your Star Trek bunch would win. But it's not any of those things. So you lose.
Originally posted by jaden101Incorrect as you are going off of implied which you greatly lose even harder if you want to look at it that way. Along with the fact the necroverse ships have no feats to prove how capable or now powerful they are.
I don't need to respond further. I've defeated you again. To the point where you had to make stuff up. You didn't even know your own argument. I had to tell you how many ships and world's reboot trek had when you mindlessly bleated about superior numbers. When proven wrong you never brought it up again. All your ships were destroyed except 1 which was extremely badly damaged. Only 1 necro ship was destroyed. The combined planetary defences reboot trek has shown to try and repel a necro attack has been...none. Zero. Zilch. Nada. The total number of species conquered by your beloved ST bunch combined? Zero. Nil. None.If it was a mining competition or a gay face tattoos competition or a 'how to make exaggerated movements with your mouth while saying your own name' competition then I'm sure your Star Trek bunch would win. But it's not any of those things. So you lose.
Dude, they don't have to fortify one planet or use their combined forces to defeat a planet. We see despite their entire might Riddick escape and kill the leader of the necroverse himself. Outside the Necros the verse has nothing whereas Trek has the Federation, Klingons, Narada, Dreadnaught, and Khan.
The Narada based off feats, abilities, firepower would annihilate a vast amount of Necro ships. Back up your case.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Incorrect as you are going off of implied which you greatly lose even harder if you want to look at it that way. Along with the fact the necroverse ships have no feats to prove how capable or now powerful they are.Dude, they don't have to fortify one planet or use their combined forces to defeat a planet. We see despite their entire might Riddick escape and kill the leader of the necroverse himself. Outside the Necros the verse has nothing whereas Trek has the Federation, Klingons, Narada, Dreadnaught, and Khan.
The Narada based off feats, abilities, firepower would annihilate a vast amount of Necro ships. Back up your case.
1. Except for the whole, you know, conquering loads of planets, blowing planets up and almost wiping out a renowned warrior species. Compared with ST fleets and ships feats of almost entirely blown up.
2. Yes. We've established the numbers of ships your combined forces had and how it is massively inferior in numbers and feats than the necro empire. We can also establish from that classic deleted scene that the most powerful of all the ST ships, the Narada, was incapacitated by the USS Kelvin ramming into it and Nero captured by Klingons.
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Originally posted by jaden101
1. Except for the whole, you know, conquering loads of planets, blowing planets up and almost wiping out a renowned warrior species. Compared with ST fleets and ships feats of almost entirely blown up.2. Yes. We've established the numbers of ships your combined forces had and how it is massively inferior in numbers and feats than the necro empire. We can also establish from that classic deleted scene that the most powerful of all the ST ships, the Narada, was incapacitated by the USS Kelvin ramming into it and Nero captured by Klingons.
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1. Off screen and what we see onscreen isn't that impressive considering the planetary defenses. They are blown up by superior firepower and weaponry unseen in the Chronicles of Riddick universe.
2. The ships have shields and have superior firepower. The Narada and Dreadnaught themselves would slaughter the featless necroverse ships.
That happened off screen and was due to a ship and captain that is on Star Treks side. Riddick meanwhile runs wild and a former Furyan betrays the necroverse to aid him against The Lord Marshal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Off screen and what we see onscreen isn't that impressive considering the planetary defenses. They are blown up by superior firepower and weaponry unseen in the Chronicles of Riddick universe.2. The ships have shields and have superior firepower. The Narada and Dreadnaught themselves would slaughter the featless necroverse ships.
That happened off screen and was due to a ship and captain that is on Star Treks side. Riddick meanwhile runs wild and a former Furyan betrays the necroverse to aid him against The Lord Marshal.
1. It's stated on screen that they conquered several planets and destroyed the Furyans, who were considered to be the best warrior species.
2. Superior firepower based on??? The fact that they appear to fire hundreds upon hundreds or shots at one another and still don't put inferior ships down? Makes you wonder just how rubbish the Klingons are if the Kelvin and the Enterprise could take that much fire and still be going yet the Klingons were demolished and so was the rest of Star Fleet.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what would they sweep aside the Federation easily ?You also have multiple Klingons, Narada, and the Dreadnaught manned by Khan himself.
Dude, you keep stating the point that Khan manned the Dreadnaught...yeah for like 20 minutes before it's disabled & comes crashing into the earth's atmosphere!
That's not exactly heroic.
Plus the Dreadnaught was destroyed on it's maiden voyage...once again, not a very heroic trait.
Originally posted by jaden101
1. It's stated on screen that they conquered several planets and destroyed the Furyans, who were considered to be the best warrior species.2. Superior firepower based on??? The fact that they appear to fire hundreds upon hundreds or shots at one another and still don't put inferior ships down? Makes you wonder just how rubbish the Klingons are if the Kelvin and the Enterprise could take that much fire and still be going yet the Klingons were demolished and so was the rest of Star Fleet.
1. Off screen means it lacks the context.
2. Based on feats. Shields. What ships have shielding in the Riddick verse ?
That was one daring, lucky move which resulted in the Kelvin's demise.
All of these ships have superior abilities via screen feats than the for the most part speculative Necro army.
Originally posted by Esau CairnDue to the torpedoes going off. That wasn't his fault.
Dude, you keep stating the point that Khan manned the Dreadnaught...yeah for like 20 minutes before it's disabled & comes crashing into the earth's atmosphere!
That's not exactly heroic.
Plus the Dreadnaught was destroyed on it's maiden voyage...once again, not a very heroic trait.
That isn't relevant to this debate. The ship is vastly more powerful and with greater abilities, traveling speed, etc. Than the Necro ships.