Eh, from what I can tell, Sasuke now has Senjutsu chakra above the caliber of your average Sage Mode, and on top of that now has gained the Perfect Susanoo which is greater than the Tailed Beasts. Not only that, but his Rinnegan allows him to teleport anything within a certain radius anywhere else in that radius, though it appears to have a cooldown. Seeing how his Susano'o increased dramatically, his Blaze Release (Amaterasu Control) may also be advanced. As a final note, if his Rinnegan can free people from/counteract the Infinite Tsukuyomi, does that mean that he too can now use a higher level of Tsukuyomi than Itachi?
Anyway, both sides have a good shot imo, current Sasuke seems to be even stronger than the Edo Madara that defeated the five Kage, but this team is superior to that one.
So who wins?
Sasuke doesn't have Senjutsu chakra. Six Paths chakra =/= Senjutsu chakra. Madara made that clear when he said that Naruto had gotten Senjutsu, and we haven't gotten proof otherwise.
We still don't know the specifics of his Rinnegan's ability. If it's simply to teleport ad infinitum with range being the only drawback, then no one on the other team would be able to hit him given that his speed and reactions seem to have jumped up quite a good deal.
Needless to say, Sasuke wins. Perfect Susanoo would one-shot everyone here, and Mu is really the only one who can do anything to Sasuke thanks to his Dust Release and flight.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Sasuke doesn't have Senjutsu chakra. Six Paths chakra =/= Senjutsu chakra. Madara made that clear when he said that Naruto had gotten Senjutsu, and we haven't gotten proof otherwise.
We still don't know the specifics of his Rinnegan's ability. If it's simply to teleport ad infinitum with range being the only drawback, then no one on the other team would be able to hit him given that his speed and reactions seem to have jumped up quite a good deal.Needless to say, Sasuke wins. Perfect Susanoo would one-shot everyone here, and Mu is really the only one who can do anything to Sasuke thanks to his Dust Release and flight.
I think kisames absorbing chakra ability and sasori's poison could be a factor along with mu's atomic disintergration. Those 3 together could be a factor. Oh yea plus the 3rd raikages lightning spear and impenetrable shield
Sasuke doesn't have Senjutsu chakra. Six Paths chakra =/= Senjutsu chakra. Madara made that clear when he said that Naruto had gotten Senjutsu, and we haven't gotten proof otherwise.
You forget that Madara can only be harmed by Senjutsu chakra, and Sasuke's Chidori both pierced him and cut him in half. What do you think he meant when he mentioned he had the Sage's chakra?
We still don't know the specifics of his Rinnegan's ability. If it's simply to teleport ad infinitum with range being the only drawback, then no one on the other team would be able to hit him given that his speed and reactions seem to have jumped up quite a good deal.
There's probably a cool down and large chakra usage considering he usually keeps that eye closed, and only teleports things every once in a while.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
You forget that Madara can only be harmed by Senjutsu chakra, and Sasuke's Chidori both pierced him and cut him in half.
Yet Taijutsu amped by chakra (Night Guy) affected him as well. And despite what Tobirama said, the Fuuton enhanced Amaterasu slightly affected Tobi, as he was shown regenerating after the Truth seeking balls nullified the Fire. Heck, the same technique hurt the Juubi itself. Why would the Jinchuurikii of the Juubi be immune to chakra, but not the Juubi itself? Obito and Madara have no special attributes on their own that make them completely immune to any ninjutsu that hits them.
Leads me to believe that Senjutsu isn't really the only thing that can hurt a Juubi Jinchuurikii.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
What do you think he meant when he mentioned he had the Sage's chakra?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
There's probably a cool down and large chakra usage considering he usually keeps that eye closed, and only teleports things every once in a while.
Every once in a while? He used his ability twice in the span of a few minutes, and could have used it at least once more, had Madara not been out of range. That ability of his Rinnegan is still speculation at best. Not saying you're wrong, but we don't know exactly what the mechanics of his ability are.
Originally posted by yungz22
Raikage and muu can get thru susanooAnd maybe kisame can because he absorbs chakra
Yeah, normal Susano'o. They aren't standing up to his new Perfect Susano'o, that looks even more impressive than Madara's and has been cutting meteors in half since it arrived.
Kisame can't absorb chakra if it's too fast for him. Sasuke shoots off one ammy and Kisame is done for.
Not to mention that, according to what Madara said, Sasuke can also use infinite Tsukiyomi now.
Originally posted by yungz22
Madara said sasuke can use infinite tsukuyomi? If thats the case then i concede sasuke would def win lolSasukes susanoo durability hasnt really been tested.
Not exactly. He said that if someone awakened the rinnegan, then they could use the infinite tsukiyomi. Since Sasuke has rinnegan, and has demonstrated the ability to negate it, it's safe to assume at this point that he can use infinite tsukiyomi.
Well yeah, but it's still definitely superior to Madara's perfect Susano'o. Plus it has a huge agility, speed and flight advantage, as well as teleportation.
Wakka's right though, Sasuke wins this no prob. Although I actually think Sakura would be the biggest threat. She's stronger than Tsunade, and with mitotic regen, she should be able to take leaps and bounds more punishment than anyone else on this team.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Not exactly. He said that if someone awakened the rinnegan, then they could use the infinite tsukiyomi. Since Sasuke has rinnegan, and has demonstrated the ability to negate it, it's safe to assume at this point that he can use infinite tsukiyomi.Well yeah, but it's still definitely superior to Madara's perfect Susano'o. Plus it has a huge agility, speed and flight advantage, as well as teleportation.
Wakka's right though, Sasuke wins this no prob. Although I actually think Sakura would be the biggest threat. She's stronger than Tsunade, and with mitotic regen, she should be able to take leaps and bounds more punishment than anyone else on this team.
I gotta read the chapters again but what has sasukes susanoo done that makes it superior to madaras
Eh i think the 3rd raikage can take more damage then sakura.
We dont really know how long sakura can keep the mitotic regen going. Remember sakura has only been storing chakra for about 3 years. Tsunade on the other hand has been storing chakra for alot longer than that. This is prolly why she was able to use it as long as she did againt madara.
I had the idea that Sakura has surpassed Tsunade, obviously their regeneration is about the same, but Sakura has much more destructive power.
Anyway, I can't find any reason Sasuke could win this with no problems, especially without his Susano'o. One of Sasori's puppets is the third Kazekage, who IIRC was supposed to be the strongest Kazekage and one that could manipulate poisoned iron sand. Not only that, but Sasori has well over a hundred puppets he can control at the same time including himself, each with dangerous weapons varying from missiles to flame throwers to senbon, and if any of them injured Sasuke, the poison would leave him vulnerable.
The Third Raikage was even faster than the Fourth Raikage, and his Ultimate Arrmor was powerful enough to tank a Rasenshuriken and Biju Bombs, while his ultimate attack was even stronger than those things--A super chidori. He's stronger than the rest of the Raikages.
Kisame was a Wielder of Samehada, he could hypothetically do away with Amaterasu, and any other chakra based attack from Sasuke and use it to heal his wounds and rejuvenate his strength endlessly. He can spawn mini-oceans with his Water Style, and can even create several chakra-absorbing water based attacks, including a water prison the size of a mountain.
The Second Tsuchikage has the same dust element powers as Onoki that can demolish Susano'o, the only difference is that he is t in his old age, and he has other techniques such as his ability to escape death by halving himself.
This team is supremely formidable, I can see Sasuke having a good shot at winning with his Susano'o, but probably not so much without it. Current Naruto/Sasuke are overrated.
The Third Raikage was even faster than the Fourth Raikage,
I'm pretty sure 4th is faster, though 3rd was still quite speedy.
They're both fast-bricks, with 3rd having more defense and 4th more speed.
I will mention one other ability you left out- Black Lightning. While we didn't see him use it, we know he has it, and we saw Darui, the 3rd's student, use it against the Zetsu as a powerful wide-area attack.
Yeah, I forgot about his Kuroi Raiton style, which has far more destructive capacity than regular Raiton.
As for the fourth Hokage being faster than the third, I doubt it. The Third Raikage outclasses A in both offensive and defensive capacity, I don't see why his speed would be any lesser, he has been depicted as nothing more than a bolt of lightning.