Best manipulators

Who are the best manipulators in Marvel and DC? And by that I mean manipulation such as Tao, without using type of power like telepathy.

I know that Tao would probably be number 1 so I'm excluding him.

Niles Caulder

Martian Man hunter's feat is pretty high up there.

Deadpool for short term manipulation.

Constantine? I don't know about Nu52 but Hellblazer Constantine was a beast.

Jackal.

The word "manipulation" was used 43871 times in Clone Saga shocklaugh

LOL!!!

Tim Drake. Talked himself into the Bat Family.

Immortus, half of the time you don't understand sh_t about his goals, the other half you get retconned.

TAO and.Constantine ftw.

Black Tom Cassidy got the Juggernaut to give him half his power.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Jackal.

The word "manipulation" was used 43871 times in Clone Saga shocklaugh

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Deadpool for short term manipulation.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Black Tom Cassidy got the Juggernaut to give him half his power.

Oh, in that case, Joker got Mxy to give him 99% of his power 😛

Nick Fury & Fantomex

Does Starro count?

Lex Luthor. Magneto.

A prep feat 83,000 years in the making, where J'obber J'onn manipulates Solaris, a computer the size of a sun, into giving Superman the last remaining GL ring:

Ha, i'd forgotten about that!

In DC I'd say Constantine, Darkseid, Vrill Dox, Niles Caulder, Querl Dox, Luthor, Ultra Humanite and Amanda Waller are up there.

Can only really Think of Doom, T'Challa, and Kang in MU

White Queen and Moonstone have been shown to be really manipulative in the MU.

Originally posted by JabberWaki
Constantine? I don't know about Nu52 but Hellblazer Constantine was a beast.

TAO.

Constantine.