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Originally posted by namorsubby
Thors not one shotting Namor. And I'm not sure what is meant by "weakness exploitation". I think Aarkus is the wild card here because I'm not sure of the full extent of his powers or what they all are honestly.
Cap throws Namor his shield and he engages Thor while Vision aka Aarkus mentally harasses Thor. The rest of the team is superfluous.
The first and only scenario that came to mind, was Thor walking in and hitting the team with a concentrated elemental assault that KO's the entire team barring Namor, and then goes to work dominating the monarch of the oceans FTW. Namor is strong, but he just doesn't have the chops to hang with a guy that could polish off a much more powerful team in the form of the Infinity Watch, with the Silver Surfer, and Beta Ray Bill helping them out. In other words, and without a doubt, Thor completely dominates this.
Originally posted by Stoic
Namor is strong, but he just doesn't have the chops to hang with a guy that could polish off a much more powerful team in the form of the Infinity Watch, with the Silver Surfer, and Beta Ray Bill helping them out. In other words, and without a doubt, Thor completely dominates this.
Originally posted by namorsubby
I assume that you are not aware of Namor and Thors past encounters.
They are. Thats why they said Thor could one shot Namor:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/1857806-thor_one_shots_namor.jpg
Originally posted by Stoic
Let's call a spade a spade here Zop, and get to the Thor vs Ikaris question. Can Ikaris beat Thor?
The Ikaris that was fighting the Invaders was mind controlled and he even said he was trying his best to fight the effect and not murder them.
He said he was trying his best not to hit them with the full extent of his power but that the urge to kill them was overwhelming. What i took from that is that the mind control was so that it would incline him to fight all out, but he was trying not to. Namor faired pretty well against him, too. Also, Aarkus was not in that fight.
Originally posted by zopzop
Sure, why not? It's not like Ikaris is some feeb. Written to his potential he's easily high herald level.The Ikaris that was fighting the Invaders was mind controlled and he even said he was trying his best to fight the effect and not murder them.
So you believe that Ikaris could defeat Thor, which shows why your first response to this thread was what it was. I can admit that I left out some key points to my first response, but the reason why I used that particular Thor showing, was because he wasn't exactly in his right mind either. Ikaris has had it out with Thor in the past, and I do realize that he is sporting a new Prime Eternal moniker these days. But, has it been proven that this new sparkly title has propelled him to heights that he could not reach in the past?
Is he now too much for Black Bolt to handle? Where is the proof that he has become so much more powerful than the guy that was swatted aside by the Savage Hulk? What proof is there that he would do better against Thor than he did in the past? I'm not saying that he can't, but I'm just saying that I need more than a title to prove that he has earned the right to hang with the real big guns. Thor is, and has proven time and again that he is one of the big guns.
Keep in mind that I am not knocking Ikaris, but he has to be placed under the scrutiny microscope in order to compete with a character like Thor. I believe that Thor would blow this team away, and do it with minimum to medium effort.
Originally posted by Stoic
So you believe that Ikaris could defeat Thor, which shows why your first response to this thread was what it was. I can admit that I left out some key points to my first response, but the reason why I used that particular Thor showing, was because he wasn't exactly in his right mind either. Ikaris has had it out with Thor in the past, and I do realize that he is sporting a new Prime Eternal moniker these days. But, has it been proven that this new sparkly title has propelled him to heights that he could not reach in the past?Is he now too much for Black Bolt to handle? Where is the proof that he has become so much more powerful than the guy that was swatted aside by the Savage Hulk? What proof is there that he would do better against Thor than he did in the past? I'm not saying that he can't, but I'm just saying that I need more than a title to prove that he has earned the right to hang with the real big guns. Thor is, and has proven time and again that he is one of the big guns.
Keep in mind that I am not knocking Ikaris, but he has to be placed under the scrutiny microscope in order to compete with a character like Thor. I believe that Thor would blow this team away, and do it with minimum to medium effort.
Originally posted by namorsubby
He said he was trying his best not to hit them with the full extent of his power but that the urge to kill them was overwhelming. What i took from that is that the mind control was so that it would incline him to fight all out, but he was trying not to. Namor faired pretty well against him, too. Also, Aarkus was not in that fight.
Aarkus + Namor w/Cap's shield got this fight in the bag.
