Originally posted by Robtard
Sounds right. Any of the higher up Crows die during the attack on Castle Black? Can't recall.
Ummm...yes.
This one guy that everyone agrees would have been elected, easily, as the new Commander. Was it the black smith? I can't remember his name or who he was before the battle on the wall. GRRM bored me so much getting up to that point that I glazed over reading some of that shit.
I can't remember. But it was the guy that died in the tunnel against the King of the Giants. He died very badassly, too. I mean, how many men can say that stalemated the most badass Giant Warrior in a fight?
Originally posted by NemeBro
14 years old is practically 20 by the standards of the time.
Correct. You only have to go back 100 years in American history and you will find 14 year old girls marrying 30 year old bachelors.
If my great-grandmother hadn't married at 15, I probably would not exist. But they lived in a different time when dying could happen a lot sooner and dying could come more easily, too. They didn't have time to dick around in school and shitty jobs until their 20s. They had to get married and make as many babies as possible.
Originally posted by dadudemonIn terms of bravery he's certainly god tier, but as Robtard implied, in the same circumstance I could see warriors like Jaime, Gregor, Oberyn, Sandor, or whoever doing the same.
That's even more badass. So it really was the blacksmith?Donal Noye's battle prowess ranking...
Based on his feat of stalemating Mag Mar, how does he stack up against heavy hitters like whole and healthy Jaime and Gregor?
So how does everyone feel about the show practically confirming that Victarion's plot is going to amount to nothing in the books?
Originally posted by NemeBroSo how does everyone feel about the show practically confirming that Victarion's plot is going to amount to nothing in the books?
Explain.
But I don't like it already, as Victarion is kinda a kickass character doing kinda kickass stuff. We don't need another character Drogo'd, is what I am saying.
Well George acts as a consultant for the show, and even a writer for some episodes.
The showrunners, while discussing it with him, obviously brought up trimming the fat of the story to make it more manageable as a tv series.
So the fat man said,"All right listen, you know that guy Victarion? Just cut him. His storyline isn't going to go anywhere anyway, it's just another shaggy dog story."
Speculation? Sure. But why else would they cut him entirely from the show? Victarion is just not going to matter in the long run, IMO.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Well George acts as a consultant for the show, and even a writer for some episodes.The showrunners, while discussing it with him, obviously brought up trimming the fat of the story to make it more manageable as a tv series.
So the fat man said,"All right listen, you know that guy Victarion? Just cut him. His storyline isn't going to go anywhere anyway, it's just another shaggy dog story."
Speculation? Sure. But why else would they cut him entirely from the show? Victarion is just not going to matter in the long run, IMO.
So you're guessing. I hope you're wrong.
Also hoping that Focus is correct; once Balon slips and dies, Victarion appears to fill the spot.
Originally posted by focus4chumpsHBO supplementary material mentions Euron as Balon's only brother though. They could change that, but for the moment Victarion does not exist.
but as with penny, the show writers are just as free to drop victarion as they are to introduce him in their own fashion.we know that balon greyjoy is going to die soon, so that could be the opening to introduce vic and/or crows eye.
really there is no evidence to point either way.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
we know that balon greyjoy is going to die soon, so that could be the opening to introduce vic and/or crows eye.
That reminds me...
In the books, his Balon's death was very...lackluster and happened "off-screen." He was walking on a bridge, the wind blew really hard, and he fell to his death. Very anticlimactic.
Then, his death was mentioned in passing in another character's chapter. We didn't really get to learn the details of his death until the story focused on his brother (The Prophet - Aeron).
I sure hope the show does better justice to Balon's death than the books. At least SHOW us his death. But, still...the wind blows, he falls and goes boom. That's going to be funny if shown on screen. Like the prince's "consultant" in Braveheart that the king threw out the window. 🙂
Originally posted by NemeBro
HBO supplementary material mentions Euron as Balon's only brother though. They could change that, but for the moment Victarion does not exist.
Dammit, you're right. I was hoping you were wrong but I checked.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh yeah, Balon's death is the greatest in the series.He's just walking across a bridge... And he falls off. haermm
I for one like to think Euron didn't even have him assassinated. He just fell.
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Euron, Balon, Victorion, Aeron...all of those names sound so similar. I am confusing them.
I had no idea that Euron was suspected of killing Balon. Which book does that show up in? Or is that just a fan theory? Aeron did not think that in his "The Prophet" chapter...