Superdoom vs. Thor with Power gem

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thor was becoming more powerful by the minute even though he was taping the Gem sub-consciously.
Eternity itself stated, that with time, Thor would become a threat to a good portion of the multiverse.

Thor was becoming more powerful while inside the block because he was trying to get out.
But
Outside the block I can agree he was getting more powerful but very very slowly.
We know this because of his fights. He had the gem for a good amount of time and didn't seem anymore powerful than when he first got the gem. So prehaps he was gaining 1 ton of strength a minute?

Anyway, Thor was getting more powerful. So the key to winning is beating him before it's too late (just like Hulk).

Originally posted by Stoic
The most important part of this, is realizing that this version of Superman would be unable to hurt Thor with the Power Gem. It makes its host invincible when CIS is not involved. In other words, Thor destroys him.

Also, not being able to be hurt implies infinite durability which implies infinite power. It was clear that Thor was tapping into the gem very slowly, gaining strength little by little. He was far from invincible. Odin probably could have one shotted him since Odin broke out of the block with ease while Thor was trapped trying to get out (while growing in power) for a long time.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
so what if he didn't want to kill him, you think he hit him soft as he can so he admitted something ? Retard I thought you was all about logic

The power is controlled mentally. It doesn't matter as he didn't intend on killing Thanos. So the feat is not a good one to use to compare against Thor with PG.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Handbooks said he was.

I know what your next line would be: handbooks are superseded by what actually happens in comics.

Which leads me neatly to the Namor/Ares fight. In handbooks, Ares is described as supremely skilled etc. In fights? Not so much.

If you read the majority of the blood and thunder arc, it was understood by all that Thor was under warrior madness. The writer of the handbook read this and concluded as much.
It wasn't until the final comic or two (the one where the handbook writer didn't read) that Odin realized that it wasn't warrior's madness and that he made Thor that way be creating the Donald Blake persona which divided Thor's soul. Warrior madness can't be cured. That is why Odin said Thor must die. But when he realized that it wasn't truly warrior madness he realized Thor can be cured.

Ares has shown plenty of skill in comics. Isn't that why you gave him a 1.1 skill advantage over Namor?

P.S. I never went by handbooks to justify Ares skill. I went by comics and the suspension of disbelief (Ares is the god of war, master of combat, millions of years experience, etc.)

Originally posted by h1a8
The power is controlled mentally. It doesn't matter as he didn't intend on killing Thanos. So the feat is not a good one to use to compare against Thor with PG.

Plus you don't and never have known what you're talking about

Originally posted by h1a8

That would take a hell of a long time though.
Problem is, why didn't Eternity try to stop Thor beforehand. Because comic characters sometimes have the intelligence of the writer himself.

Eternity's moment was just the writer indicating to us just how powerful Thor would become.
He's not going to have Eternity step in at that instant cause we got a story to read/enjoy.

Originally posted by h1a8

Thor was becoming more powerful while inside the block because he was trying to get out.
But
Outside the block I can agree he was getting more powerful but very very slowly.
We know this because of his fights. He had the gem for a good amount of time and didn't seem anymore powerful than when he first got the gem.

Originally posted by h1a8

So prehaps he was gaining 1 ton of strength a minute?

Originally posted by h1a8

Anyway, Thor was getting more powerful. So the key to winning is beating him before it's too late (just like Hulk).

You see, once the PG is in his use, even at base levels, his power is already ridiculous.
Also, Thor didn't just acquire super-strength and durability, the PG offers many goodies.

Thor was able to withstand and reverse a karmic soul attack by Warlock's Infinity Gem, combined with a mystic psychic blast, by Dr Strange.

And they weren't holding back. (literally stated)

Thor also simultaneously one-shot Silver Surfer-Drax & Pip. (space Gem)

I can't see "Hulk" capable of such.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you read the majority of the blood and thunder arc, it was understood by all that Thor was under warrior madness. The writer of the handbook read this and concluded as much.
It wasn't until the final comic or two (the one where the handbook writer didn't read) that Odin realized that it wasn't warrior's madness and that he made Thor that way be creating the Donald Blake persona which divided Thor's soul. Warrior madness can't be cured. That is why Odin said Thor must die. But when he realized that it wasn't truly warrior madness he realized Thor can be cured.

Ares has shown plenty of skill in comics. Isn't that why you gave him a 1.1 skill advantage over Namor?

P.S. I never went by handbooks to justify Ares skill. I went by comics and the suspension of disbelief (Ares is the god of war, master of combat, millions of years experience, etc.)

What scans do you have to justify his skill? Time to put up or shut up.

Originally posted by Mr Master
It was actually by the second. My bad, but good for Thor.

Eternity's moment was just the writer indicating to us just how powerful Thor would become.
He's not going to have Eternity step in at that instant cause we got a story to read/enjoy.

Don't recall Thanos constricting his statement to Thor getting out of the block.
In fact, I'm almost certain Thanos was referring to Thor in general.
It just so happened to be, that Thanos was able to analyze Thor in his brief time within the block.

Can't say, there's no allusion to the specifics, but whatever it was, it was, per second.

Interesting. I'm not sure it's that cut and dry.

You see, once the PG is in his use, even at base levels, his power is already ridiculous.
Also, Thor didn't just acquire super-strength and durability, the PG offers many goodies.

Thor was able to withstand and reverse a karmic soul attack by Warlock's Infinity Gem, [b]combined with a mystic psychic blast, by Dr Strange.

And they weren't holding back. (literally stated)

Thor also simultaneously one-shot Silver Surfer-Drax & Pip. (space Gem)

I can't see "Hulk" capable of such. [/B]

Actually Thor was getting stronger continuously (per minute, per second, per millisecond, etc.). Gaining 1 ton per minute continuously is gaining 1/60 of a ton per second.
It's not EXACTLY cut and dry but APPROXIMATELY cut and dry since for hours Thor never shown a dramatic increase in strength with the short amount of time he had the PG (hardly any tbh). So it is reasonable to assume between 1 ton per minute and 1 ton per second.

Every user of the PG is different. Extreme feats can't be shared really since we have users not able to tap into the gem as well as others. We must only go one what was shown in the Arc by that particular user to gauge how much they were tapping into the gem. Thor was getting hurt by strikes and his strength never went over 2x his normal self (going by all of his feats in the arc).

Thor basically one shotted Drax without the PG prior with Mjolnir. Thor with PG didn't one shot Drax with Mjolnir. He one shotted him with a blast. Also, he koed Surfer and Pip with different hits at different times (not simultaneously). With Surfer it was a hammer throw. Earlier without the PG Thor nearly koed Surfer (severely stunned him) with a hammer throw. We don't know how he koed Pip since it wasn't shown.

Thor was used the Gem to reverse the blast by Strange and Warlock. Physical hits are different and instantaneously. Energy projection won't play a role in this fight.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What scans do you have to justify his skill? Time to put up or shut up.

Originally posted by h1a8
So prehaps he was gaining 1 ton of strength a minute?

Originally posted by h1a8
Why argue when you already agree? You are now baiting.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
for the love of phuck facepalm

Originally posted by quanchi112
Asking for you to gladiator your claims isn't baiting it is debating.

Originally posted by h1a8
It is when he already agrees with my claim. If we both believe Thor is stronger than Thing then what will be the point of asking you to prove it other than baiting?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What scans do you have to justify his skill? Time to put up or shut up.

😂

Originally posted by h1a8

Actually Thor was getting stronger continuously (per minute, per second, per millisecond, etc.). Gaining 1 ton per minute continuously is gaining 1/60 of a ton per second.
It's not EXACTLY cut and dry but APPROXIMATELY cut and dry since for hours Thor never shown a dramatic increase in strength with the short amount of time he had the PG (hardly any tbh). So it is reasonable to assume between 1 ton per minute and 1 ton per second.

So I'm just sayin, he was amping up in general.

Originally posted by h1a8

Every user of the PG is different. Extreme feats can't be shared really since we have users not able to tap into the gem as well as others. We must only go one what was shown in the Arc by that particular user to gauge how much they were tapping into the gem. Thor was getting hurt by strikes and his strength never went over 2x his normal self (going by all of his feats in the arc).

Thor basically one shotted Drax without the PG prior with Mjolnir. Thor with PG didn't one shot Drax with Mjolnir. He one shotted him with a blast. Also, he koed Surfer and Pip with different hits at different times (not simultaneously). With Surfer it was a hammer throw. Earlier without the PG Thor nearly koed Surfer (severely stunned him) with a hammer throw.

We don't know how he koed Pip since it wasn't shown.

I'll add, I believe Pip got k'o'd here:

[img=http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t/19042929_pip.jpg]

It's the only time he was hit before appearing on the floor sleeping.

So h1 answer the question and back up your claim or will you just ignore another post ??

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he intended to hurt Thanos badly so it can be used or he would of used the power of the soul or mind gem to get Thanos to admit it.

Plus you don't and never have known what you're talking about

Characters have the mind of writers in comics. That's why they do stupid shit all the time. In Magus defense, he wanted Thanos to admit it himself. What would be the purpose of using the soul or mind gem to do it? What satisfaction will one actually get? What's the greater love, someone loving you on their own or you controlling them like a robot and making them love you?

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters have the mind of writers in comics. That's why they do stupid shit all the time. In Magus defense, he wanted Thanos to admit it himself. What would be the purpose of using the soul or mind gem to do it? What satisfaction will one actually get? What's the greater love, someone loving you on their own or you controlling them like a robot and making them love you?

It was nothing to do with satisfaction , he simply wanted the truth/answer from Thanos.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
first part of your post is just a excuse and pile of shite.

It was nothing to do with satisfaction , he simply wanted the truth/answer from Thanos.

Originally posted by h1a8
I know. But it would make no sense to make Thanos say what he want to hear using the mind gem. From his intentions, he wanted Thanos to admit it on his own.

Like I said he wanted to hurt Thanos badly and you have nothing to prove otherwise.

Why don't you try and answer Darksaints question about Ares skill instead of dodging again