Originally posted by JayDaDonThat was the only thing I didn't like about SSM. Well that and Venom's voice/design.
You know just the other day I was reminded of the one big flaw of Spectacular Spider-Man (the cartoon) they felt the need to make kraven some weird anthropomorphic lion, when he has always proven to be a fight for spidey without that. And even if he wasnt up to his calibur, the show was so good at showing other ways the villains could make trouble for him.
Originally posted by deathslash
1. how does Kraven win? He doesn't have even half of the resources that Bane does.2. I actually think that Kraven could win. He's faster, slightly more skilled, and possibly stronger.
1. Kraven during fights actually uses his prep of traps of elephants, posion darts, knives/spears tiger claws. NuDc Bane seems to be to pride full at times and just rely on his Venom vs a worthy opponent like Batman.
He stands a much better chance IMO hand to hand, since he is stronger and pretty ruthless in his own right.
Originally posted by Daredevil11. Kraven wins that fight only if you ignore that Bane went out of his way to enlist the help of the talons, has an entire island nation and its military under his control and used said military to take over Gotham. 2. Batman has still owned Bane in the nu 52 and since Kraven is faster, slightly more skilled, and arguably stronger than Bane.
1. Kraven during fights actually uses his prep of traps of elephants, posion darts, knives/spears tiger claws. NuDc Bane seems to be to pride full at times and just rely on his Venom vs a worthy opponent like Batman.He stands a much better chance IMO hand to hand, since he is stronger and pretty ruthless in his own right.
Originally posted by deathslash
1. Kraven wins that fight only if you ignore that Bane went out of his way to enlist the help of the talons, has an entire island nation and its military under his control and used said military to take over Gotham. 2. Batman has still owned Bane in the nu 52 and since Kraven is faster, slightly more skilled, and arguably stronger than Bane.
In a prep vs fight. Most don't use prep in standard vs as in calling other characters to assist them. It is normally what one can bring on there own with tech/traps etc etc. But that is pretty impressive what you say he did. Has an entire island and it's military. Odd how this prep disappeared in both his bouts with Batman. But either way I'll admit I knew some what about it but wasn't 100 percent sure.
He does seem pride full to use it at times. Which was my point would be his down fall? Which was his down fall against Batman both times in NuDc IIRC. 1st fight with Batman he dominated him but Batman had help from Flash/prep. As NuDc Bane just relied on his amped Venom for prep as he was pride full in just thinking he can take on Batman.
Second time Batman beat him but again Batman used his toys and his very durable suit which the NuDc Batman standard suit has tanked missile explosions, fire, and bullets easily.
Batman defeating Bane doesn't mean Bane is weak IMO. IIRC classic Kraven was defeated by Black Widow once while he was distracted. Does not mean Kraven is weak either. Both times Batman didn't defeat Bane in strict hand to hand combat. Nudc Batman people forget his normal "suit" has been shown to withstand explosions...missile explosions.
Now I have heard Kraven recieved some kind of a power up? Immortality and that only Spiderman can kill him. So I'm not to familiar with current Kraven. And you say Kraven is arguably stronger then Bane. What strength feats make you claim this out of curiosity?