sentry and blue marvel

Originally posted by tkitna
Looks dazed to me and his pupils are clearly evident. Oh well.

Who said he had too? Regardless, what he did was effective and ended the fight. What does fighting the other Avengers have to do with anything? They were all fodder and never relevant in the battle.

A non speaking Sentry is the one to worry about.

So you consider Ares, Wonderman, Ironman, and Ms. Marvel as fodder? WTF. That's far away from being a team of fodder and BM took on them along with Sentry. That was an AMAZING showing for BM.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
and this is where you need to learn to read the actual comic in question where Sentry says them very words whilst his eyes start to glow with energy.

Sure beating someone whilst they are distracted fighting another team is your idea of a good win.

Easy

i have read that comic and ive seen sentry go all out obvoiusly you didnt read that one big ol arc where he uhh destroys asgard?

An old debate. For the last scenarios Voidtry and Void would wreck BM.

As for "standard" Sentry, who knows what that is - Sentry was all over the place.

I think that a "standard" non-void Sentry at his best edges BM and would take the majority. Reed considered him the most powerful hero for a good reason. But on the other hand, his powers fluctuated and I can see him losing a few too on his bad days.

Originally posted by basilisk
An old debate. For the last scenarios Voidtry and Void would wreck BM.

As for "standard" Sentry, who knows what that is - Sentry was all over the place.

I think that a "standard" non-void Sentry at his best edges BM and would take the majority. Reed considered him the most powerful hero for a good reason. But on the other hand, his powers fluctuated and I can see him losing a few too on his bad days.

well thats whats so difficult where does his "standard" sit at? hes beaten guys like molecule man and ares with what seemed like ease idk i know he wins but i want more of what degree does he win

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
i have read that comic and ive seen sentry go all out obvoiusly you didnt read that one big ol arc where he uhh destroys asgard?

Blue Marvel still wins the first fight. He nearly flash koed Sentry and he wasn't even going for broke. He also soloed a team of Avengers, got dive bomb sneak attacked by Sentry and he still nearly beat Sentry into unconciousness.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
you mean when he was Void influenced, all he did was fly through a floating city anyhow

reported for low balling lol

Originally posted by deathslash
Blue Marvel still wins the first fight. He nearly flash koed Sentry and he wasn't even going for broke. He also soloed a team of Avengers, got dive bomb sneak attacked by Sentry and he still nearly beat Sentry into unconciousness.

from what i remember sentry didnt come close to going all out either and bm used up all he had... thats all we've ever seen out of him

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
from what i remember sentry didnt come close to going all out either and bm used up all he had... thats all we've ever seen out of him

Winy Bob loses. A game Sentry wins. Void/Voidtry stomps.

Originally posted by SamZED
Winy Bob loses. A game Sentry wins. Void/Voidtry stomps.

This is all that needs to be said and the truth.

OMG BM was fighting the other Avengers. Who cares. Yes, those Avengers are nothing more than a distraction when comes to characters like BM and the Sentry. None of them, and I repeat, none of them have anything when it comes to Sentry or BM. If people want to use them as nothing more than a distraction for when Sentry flew down and KO"d BM, then so be it, but don't act like they were actually having any kind of effect throughout the battle.

Another issue is people saying BM didn't even want to fight the Avengers and wasn't giving his all,,,,great. Does anybody think the Sentry was going all out either? He was simply trying to detain BM. Ok so he said he took him to the limit, thats awesome. BM took him to the limit before he started to cut loose is what that means. If Sentry was trying to kill him, it would have been a totally different story. I realize everybody hates Sentry and looks for anything they can to downgrade him, but he is simply above BM.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
you mean when he was Void influenced, all he did was fly through a floating city anyhow

Yeah, the same one that ripped a God in half with his bare hands. You know Ares right? The same God that would give fits to any of those silly Avengers that were supposedly giving BM troubles when they were tussling.

Originally posted by carver9
So you consider Ares, Wonderman, Ironman, and Ms. Marvel as fodder? WTF. That's far away from being a team of fodder and BM took on them along with Sentry. That was an AMAZING showing for BM.

Yes, non of them could ever hope to beat a character on the level of Sentry or BM. What did they accomplish during their fight with BM anyhow? Nothing. They were all scared shitless of Bob as we know. Sorry, but thinking those characters weakened or had an impact to BM is crazy.

Originally posted by tkitna
Yes, non of them could ever hope to beat a character on the level of Sentry or BM. What did they accomplish during their fight with BM anyhow? Nothing. They were all scared shitless of Bob as we know. Sorry, but thinking those characters weakened or had an impact to BM is crazy.

Those characters has given top tiers hell single handily so I don't know where you got this idea from. Crazy thing is, Wonderman himself has been stated in panel as being as strong as Sentry (lol).

Originally posted by carver9
Those characters has given top tiers hell single handily so I don't know where you got this idea from. Crazy thing is, Wonderman himself has been stated in panel as being as strong as Sentry (lol).

No. Simon himself has said on panel that he was as strong as Sentry a few times, but did anybody in the Avengers ever take him seriously? If so why didn't anybody ever speak up and agree with him? For a character like Simon thinking he was as powerful and strong as Sentry, the Avengers sure didn't send him in when shit hit the fan while they hung back. They sent Bob.

You know better then this Carver

Sorry Carver. Saw you (lol) after I posted

I didn't see how Bob was or could have been off his game when Adam KO'd him briefly. Saying this pretty much ignores the fact that Anti-Man nearly broke Bob's arm, and was in turn defeated by Adam. Was he off of his game when Anti-Man nearly broke his arm? He appeared pretty confident to me going in, and was surprised that there was anyone out there capable of manhandling him in that fashion.

A lot of people seem to be bringing up the Siege version of Sentry, but I thought that this was Bob on Void juice?

Sentry loses this, and it was shown that he would on panel by Adam taking it easy on him, and swatting him into orbit resulting in a brief KO.

Void. I'm not too sure who would win, because Bob beat Void and tossed him into the sun, so Adam may actually be able to win against him as well.

Void Sentry. Void Sentry win.

Death Seed Sentry. Even though he may not have been brought into this, I'm just going to say that DS Sentry stomps IMO.

Originally posted by tkitna
No. Simon himself has said on panel that he was as strong as Sentry a few times, but did anybody in the Avengers ever take him seriously? If so why didn't anybody ever speak up and agree with him? For a character like Simon thinking he was as powerful and strong as Sentry, the Avengers sure didn't send him in when shit hit the fan while they hung back. They sent Bob.

You know better then this Carver

Yes...Wolverine agreed with him. Wolverine also said that Wonderman is as strong as Sentry.

My bad...it wasn't Wolverine that said it, it was Captain America that said Wonderman has Sentry level Strength. There goes your Avenger that agrees with him.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/3731787-smacktalk2_zpsc4be144c.jpg.html

Originally posted by tkitna
Sorry Carver. Saw you (lol) after I posted

I don't think Wonderman is as strong as Sentry but that statement imo makes me think that the Avengers consider Wonderman as a peak player in the game.