Joker Vs Batman Rogues, sort of

Looking at other sites just now, i was reminded that Joker was supposed to die in his debut, making him a one shot villain:

Thankfully, we got this instead:

So, with no Joker for Batman to fight for 20+ years, then be brought to manic life in 1966 by Cesar Romero, seen in cartoon form after that, made psychotic in the 70s, re-imagined again by Jack Nicholson, made an icon (if he wasnt already) in stories like The Dark Knight Returns, The Killing Joke, A Death in the Family etc., who the heck would Heath Ledger have been playing in The Dark Knight???

Which of Batman's existing rogues would/could have become his arch enemy and why? Who has that kind of "star power"?

Catwoman.

Ras?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Catwoman.

Originally posted by SamZED
Ras?

No why's for either choice, so i'd say:

Catwoman's a good pick, she has one of the most heated, personal relationships with Batman, equal to Joker's albeit for very different reasons.

Ras, i dont like as much for arch villain status. He's had definite impact, but, he's not very visually exciting, and is kind of dry. Batman's so stoic, as a kid Ras stories were some of my least favorite to read. No counter point, just two very serious guys doing very serious things...

Zsasz, he's cooler than the Joker he just needs mainstream attention.

Probably Two-Face. He's visually interesting, and iconic enough that he's been prominent in two movies.

Two Face. yes.

Two Face is interesting.
He sure as heck would never have made it into the TV show, though!

What TV show?

Adam West, I'm guessing.

You... CRIMINALS! You abominable outlaws...

Am I the only one who kinda likes Beware the Batman? Deathstroke is badass, Two-Face is cool in a crazy kind of way, I even like Katana and Anarchy.

Haven't seen it.

Internet reviews, etc. raped it, afaik. So it's not all that bad?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Haven't seen it.

Internet reviews, etc. raped it, afaik. So it's not all that bad?

I think maybe Bane.

Almost as intelligent as Batman, and in peak human physique.
Very akin to Batman.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Zsasz, he's cooler than the Joker he just needs mainstream attention.

In the last 15 years, yes, this. Before that, things were a little more cartoonish. Zsasz would have had trouble fitting in. If we're talking about someone that ran the marathon from Batman's early years, Two-Face is a good guess.

Originally posted by riv6672
Two Face is interesting.
He sure as heck would never have made it into the TV show, though!

The Nolan version, no, but I could see the Schumaker version getting on TV. The make-up was so deliberately fake and cartoony as to be kid-friendly.

Scarecrow, for sure. The whole concept of Scarecrow, getting in people's heads and playing on their fears is so classic, pure Batman.

Two Face as well.

Riddler wouldn't reach the same level as Joker, but he could fill a more prominent role.

Yeah, Riddler might be a good choice, really.
Been around since the early days. Fun gimmick. Popular in the 60s show. Without Joker around he might have gotten more spotlight in the books.

Two Face is really good too, like i said. That make up would scare kids though!
There was a one shot guy on the show who wore a plastic mask that never came back, because people called in complaining!

Let's stop kidding ourselves, there is no universe in which the Riddler is not a second stringer.

Respectfully disagree.