Originally posted by pym-ftw
the same Jet who lost to Katara...i just dont like this argument that the first series was more powerful BS and honestly not one single argument has been made to prove me wrong.
You mean when she caught him off guard before hitting him several times before freezing him so he could not get his bearings?
That's fine. Not one single argument you've made as changed our minds either. We do seem to outnumber you though.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Yeah Mako is not weak by any means and hell his actions this season cement him as a master class bender.Just not as strong as Zuko lol.
Agreed.
Zuko's more experienced, physically superior, and was trained by a dragon. Mako's probably smarter in combat though, and he's a lot better with Lightning.
At this point, I wouldn't bet against Mako being a 'unique' bender, like Bolin, Toph, Yakone et al.
Originally posted by KingD19
Not every Firebender in the new series has needed to do the intricate motions. The ones I can recall using lightning have been like Mako. Except when they were generating lightning to power the city, then they did more careful movements instead of just point and shoot.
Firebenders like Lightning Bolt Zolt and General Iroh are as fast or faster with their Lightning generation than Ozai was, but Mako's the only one who is shown creating it with a simple finger point. Against Ming-Hua, straightening his arm and pointing his fingers was all he needed to create Lightning.
Originally posted by NemeBro😖mart: I did already but I'll say it again.
You're literally dumber than my cat. He thinks you're foolish.Katara cheap-shot Jet as he wasn't looking.
Zuko has better feats in hand to hand. Name any feats of physical strength or skill Mako has that exceed Zuko's.
Overpowering bloodbending.
Its like asking who wins "an Elite Zulu warrior or a current Soldier"
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixDragon style really didn't amp Zuko it just gave him better control.
To be fair, he has a point. Mako doesn't 'build-up' his Lightning with arm movements like every other Firebender has needed to. He just points his fingers.Zuko's the superior Firebender though. Dragon training alone is enough to prove that.
Lightning generation is the apex of fire bending.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Its like asking who wins "an Elite Zulu warrior or a current Soldier"Dragon style really didn't amp Zuko it just gave him better control.
Lightning generation is the apex of fire bending.
More like "Elite Zulu warrior or Elite MMA fighter."
It made him more refined & skilled than he was prior to the Dragon Dance (he fought evenly with Azula at the Air Temple), as well as current Mako.
That doesn't automatically make Mako the superior firebender. He's obviously got more natural talent, but Zuko's experience more than makes up for that.
And where is that apex thing stated?
Originally posted by KingD19
I'm pretty sure when they showed Mako working in the electric plant, other benders were doing the same thing. Point and shoot. That was season 1 though so I could be wrong.
Nah, Mako's the only one who was shown creating Lightning during that scene. Everyone else was just maintaining their Lightning.
Originally posted by pym-ftwIn martial combat? The Elite Zulu warrior would probably crush the modern day soldier.
😖mart: I did already but I'll say it again.Overpowering bloodbending.
Its like asking who wins "an Elite Zulu warrior or a current Soldier"
Your argument has no substance. Zuko by feats is stronger. Zuko by feats is about on par in speed. Zuko by feats is more powerful. Zuko by feats is more skilled, as a firebender (precision vaporization of an arrow string) and as a martial combatant (Beat Jet).
Mako is a master firebender, I'll grant you. He's probably one of the strongest in the world.
Zuko could deflect lightning from the strongest firebender in the world and is at worst a very close fourth strongest firebender to Azula's third (Admittedly not sure where Jeong Jeong factors into this).
The evolution of techniques is what im talking about, Mako has more control than Ozai ever showed. I'd say strength is equal Mako has lifted grown men in armor with a single arm and casually carry Bolin who is larger than he is. In Speed Mako is probably the most agile bender in the series. He was compared to an Airbender by Tenzin and is probably the #1 pro bender in the sport.
