Maleficent vs Gandalf

Started by quanchi1124 pages

Originally posted by DTM
Dont you mean, "based on"? Youre getting forgetful in your old age, quan.
If I meant based on I would have said based on. You're very immature tbh. I am going to bed.

Originally posted by DTM
Well, according to quan Im not allowed to vote here, as I havent seen Malificient, so as much detail as you put in on her powers, which I do appreciate and normally could base an argument on, quan has forbid me from doing so.

Isn't the point of debating a movie vs movie based on seeing the movies being debated?

Well, if possible yes, though considering everyone here may not have seen every movie these threads are about, thats when those that have seen the films can chime in with helpful posts to fill in the blanks. You did that (in time, after a while) with quite a helpful post to Malificeints abilities, though quan simply attacked anyone who hadnt seen the movie, basically saying if you havent seen both, dont vote - so Im not voting, simple as that.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Isn't the point of debating a movie vs movie baed on seeing the movies being debated?

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No, it's about debating who would win. Doesn't matter if you've seen a movie or not

Oh and btw, me and DTM were asking for feats. You got asshurt and said "watch the movie" rather than name feats. "can't debate the OP" indeed

Originally posted by StealthRanger
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No, it's about debating who would win. Doesn't matter if you've seen a movie or not

Oh and btw, me and DTM were asking for feats. You got asshurt and said "watch the movie" rather than name feats. "can't debate the OP" indeed

Actually it does matter, you can't form an opinion on something you have never seen. This is quite common sense when it comes to debating.

Except I asked for feats, not formed an opinion on who would win, as per my first post in this thread

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
She transforms her raven into a man, a wolf, and a dragon. The raven is just a normal raven for the most part.

She has a near wolverine level healing factor.

She uses her telekinesis to lift about a dozen armored men into the air and toss them about like toys.

She has a sleep spell that can be cast instantly.

She conjures a thunderstorm inside a small cottage.

She can summon several varieties of tree giants, that about equal to the ents in strength and a lot faster.

Her forest of thorns is fireproof.

She has massive TK ability.

She can fly.

Is that enough for you?

OK, going by the feats youve posted for her here, the only thing that Gandalf would have real trouble with is the summoning of the tree giants (and this being a forest, she would have the ability to do so). That being sad, Gandalfs white light attack has been shown to ward off evil creatures, so that might work on these summoned minions. This is actually a pretty close match for me (if Im allowed to have an opinion, as I havent seen the film Malificient), one I suppose I could see either side winning.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Except I asked for feats, not formed an opinion on who would win, as per my first post in this thread

I posted feats.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I posted feats.

Yes, after several rude posts about See The Movie, which as this threads OP you really shouldnt have done.

Originally posted by DTM
OK, going by the feats youve posted for her here, the only thing that Gandalf would have real trouble with is the summoning of the tree giants (and this being a forest, she would have the ability to do so). That being sad, Gandalfs white light attack has been shown to ward off evil creatures, so that might work on these summoned minions. This is actually a pretty close match for me (if Im allowed to have an opinion, as I havent seen the film Malificient), one I suppose I could see either side winning.

How is he going to deal with her flying and regeneration. Her wings can produce enough concussive force to knock an army back. She can fly very fast, wade through fully armored men and horses without faltering in her flight ability.

Regeneration is moot, as Gandalf is all but physically unhurtable as well (and Id be willing to bet Malificients regeneration was more based on normal physical attacks, not vast magics that Gandalf would attack her with). As for flying, not sure, depends on how fast she flies and how (or if) she attacks when flying (and its not like Gandalf is unused to battling flying foes).

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Originally posted by DTM
Regeneration is moot, as Gandalf is all but physically unhurtable as well (and Id be willing to bet Malificients regeneration was more based on normal physical attacks, not vast magics that Gandalf would attack her with). As for flying, not sure, depends on how fast she flies and how (or if) she attacks when flying (and its not like Gandalf is unused to battling flying foes).

She was able to heal from basically anything and at one time she had her wings cut off and they regenerated too her upon their return. We are talking about serious flying ability here, not like just a casual bird. More like an angel or dragon. As well as she can make dragons from any creatures she wants.

Well yes, Ive seen the trailer before, though scenes with her flying seem to be prior to her being a witch (previously I believe she was a fairy), also I dont believe the trailer shows her flying and fighting together, so unless she did so in the film, I dont put too much stock in her doing so here (and again, Gandalf does have ranged attacks as well).

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
She was able to heal from basically anything and at one time she had her wings cut off and they regenerated too her upon their return. We are talking about serious flying ability here, not like just a casual bird. More like an angel or dragon. As well as she can make dragons from any creatures she wants.

Right, but being able to heal from a sword slash lets say doesnt mean you can heal from a magical assault or burst of white magical light.

Originally posted by DTM
Well yes, Ive seen the trailer before, though scenes with her flying seem to be prior to her being a witch (previously I believe she was a fairy), also I dont believe the trailer shows her flying and fighting together, so unless she did so in the film, I dont put too much stock in her doing so here (and again, Gandalf does have ranged attacks as well).

She was fighting and flying at the same time. Why could she not do that here?

Originally posted by DTM
Right, but being able to heal from a sword slash lets say doesnt mean you can heal from a magical assault or burst of white magical light.

Seriously, she can heal from from being cut, but not from a burst of white magic?

Well thats what Im saying, I didnt see her do that in the trailer, and I havent seen the film, so if she can, fine, if she wasnt shown to do so, thats another story. What types of attack did she do while flying?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Seriously, she can heal from from being cut, but not from a burst of white magic?

Thats so hard to believe? Didnt Malificient die with a magically guided sword hit from Price Philip, as in the Sleeping Beauty cartoon?

This is pointless and stupid, you just trolling and have not seen the movie and we can't have a serious discussion.