Yamucha vs Narutoverse

Originally posted by StealthRanger
The only reason busting a planet would kill Yamcha is because he can't breathe in space when it's gone so he'd die. And again, doesn't need to bust it, just glass the surface and atmosphere and all that

No I didn't because I couldn't care less about Nardo. Also to what level, because last I checked "herp derp reality warping" doesn't equal "insta-winz"

>implying a planet buster couldn't do more than just atomise a human sized target

Sure, whatever

Izanagi is not an instawin but it negates any harm done to the user. And kamui is instant teleportation which yamcha is not faster than.

Cell was reduced to cells not atoms.

Frieza reduced to ashes

Kid buu was purified by good spiritual energy.

Atoms are smaller than all of those things

So when it comes to edo tensei it triumphs over pbs

Originally posted by chasedown
Izanagi is not an instawin but it negates any harm done to the user. And kamui is instant teleportation which yamcha is not faster than.

Cell was reduced to cells not atoms.

Frieza reduced to ashes

Kid buu was purified by good spiritual energy.

Atoms are smaller than all of those things

So when it comes to edo tensei it triumphs over pbs

Lol kid buu was atomized, he was 100% evil and the genki dama was pure so he got atomized. Keep telling yourself the narutoverse put up a fight because they wouldnt even know what hit em

Originally posted by OhLawdyLawd
Lol kid buu was atomized, he was 100% evil and the genki dama was pure so he got atomized. Keep telling yourself the narutoverse put up a fight because they wouldnt even know what hit em

Regardless did kid buu come from. No but edo tensei have.

And also izanagi negates the effects of an attack from an opponent

Originally posted by chasedown
Izanagi is not an instawin but it negates any harm done to the user. And kamui is instant teleportation which yamcha is not faster than.

No limit fallacy

If we wanted to do that, Goku is faster than Superman because he can teleport but Superman can't

Cell was reduced to cells not atoms.

Frieza reduced to ashes

Because Frieza and Cell are far more durable than the entire Nardoverse cast combined

Kid buu was purified by good spiritual energy.

Every atom in his body was destroyed by the Spirit Bomb, which is kind of an "evil's bane" attack

Atoms are smaller than all of those things

K

So when it comes to edo tensei it triumphs over pbs

Waiting for the feats that suggest Nardoverse Edo's can tank planet busters

Why wouldn't they? They can be blasted to bits and be fine.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
No limit fallacy

If we wanted to do that, Goku is faster than Superman because he can teleport but Superman can't

Because Frieza and Cell are far more durable than the entire Nardoverse cast combined

Every atom in his body was destroyed by the Spirit Bomb, which is kind of an "evil's bane" attack

K

Waiting for the feats that suggest Nardoverse Edo's can tank planet busters

Izanagi has nothing to with a no limits fallacy. Weve seen the jutsu in action and how it works. The user is allowed to cheat death in exchange for one of his eyes. It alters reality so that the attack never hit them that has nothing to do with a no limits fallacy.

The evidence that they can take pbs is that the edos came back from atomic dismantling. Did kidd buu come back from being atomized? No he did not. Edo souls are bound to this earth until the user decides to undo the jutsu. Madara is an example of that he took all kinds of damage even atomic dismantling but his efo body kept regenrating back to normal.

Originally posted by chasedown
Izanagi has nothing to with a no limits fallacy. Weve seen the jutsu in action and how it works. The user is allowed to cheat death in exchange for one of his eyes. It alters reality so that the attack never hit them that has nothing to do with a no limits fallacy.

Izanagi user vs Superman Prime, who wins?

The evidence that they can take pbs is that the edos came back from atomic dismantling. Did kidd buu come back from being atomized? No he did not. Edo souls are bound to this earth until the user decides to undo the jutsu. Madara is an example of that he took all kinds of damage even atomic dismantling but his efo body kept regenrating back to normal.

The energy of a planet buster (let alone what Frieza Saga chars are at in DC) is far in excess of atomisation of a guy who can tank country level attacks

Buu regens on a subatomic level, yo

I think cell got atomized too because if he has any cells he can regenerate them.

None of the little tricks narutards have will work on pure pb power

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Izanagi user vs Superman Prime, who wins?

The energy of a planet buster (let alone what Frieza Saga chars are at in DC) is far in excess of atomisation of a guy who can tank country level attacks

Buu regens on a subatomic level, yo

Lol what are you talking about if your reduced to atoms thats worse than being blown up.

And again idk why you keep talking about pb's anyway if yamcha blows up the planet hes going to die. Hed also be killing every other human that lived on the anet so thats something he wouldnt do.

Izanagi user by himself cant beat superman. But that user on a team could use it in combonation with other techniques to possibly beat him. Kamui, kotoamatsukami, tsukuyomi, izanagi, kaguya stopping his ability to produce energy, or kaguya sending him to another dimension.

Neither buu nor cell came back from atomization. Edo tensei have.

No kid buu did not http://youtu.be/kKkqrZ6GffI .... If you didnt know atoms are way smaller than this.

Originally posted by chasedown
Lol what are you talking about if your reduced to atoms thats worse than being blown up.

And again idk why you keep talking about pb's anyway if yamcha blows up the planet hes going to die. Hed also be killing every other human that lived on the anet so thats something he wouldnt do.

Izanagi user by himself cant beat superman. But that user on a team could use it in combonation with other techniques to possibly beat him. Kamui, kotoamatsukami, tsukuyomi, izanagi, kaguya stopping his ability to produce energy, or kaguya sending him to another dimension.

Neither buu nor cell came back from atomization. Edo tensei have.

No kid buu did not http://youtu.be/kKkqrZ6GffI .... If you didnt know atoms are way smaller than this.

I should have said bloodlusted when i made this thread, but to clarify you actually think genjutsu and narutard techniques can bring down anyone regardless of their raw strength, power and willpower SUPERMAN INCLUDED.

Confirmed for troll

Originally posted by OhLawdyLawd
I should have said bloodlusted when i made this thread, but to clarify you actually think genjutsu and narutard techniques can bring down anyone regardless of their raw strength, power and willpower SUPERMAN INCLUDED.

Confirmed for troll

Mind set is a big factor when it comes to dbz characters. Bloodlusted yamcha should win but otherwise that naruto verse definitely have a shot.

Yes they are not immune to illusionary techniques or mind control.... Superman himself is not immune to mind control. Theres been many instances where he needed someones help to break free from weaker illusionart or mind control techniques.

Anyways back to yamcha nobody in dbz has withstood geass level mind control, which is what koto amatsukami is. It writes codes into the opponents brain.

Regular genjutsu is more than enough to at least stop a dbz character in there tracks. Example vegeta under went a lot off pain and stress when babidi attempted to control him. Even bringing vegeta to his knees. Yamcha is nowhere near as powerful as vegeta at that point so genjutsu is def a viable weapon against yamcha.

Yamcha is also human and is not immune to poison or illness. Goku himself died from one. There are tons of poison type techniques in naruto that yamcha cannot withstand.

Originally posted by chasedown
Mind set is a big factor when it comes to dbz characters. Bloodlusted yamcha should win but otherwise that naruto verse definitely have a shot.

Yes they are not immune to illusionary techniques or mind control.... Superman himself is not immune to mind control. Theres been many instances where he needed someones help to break free from weaker illusionart or mind control techniques.

Anyways back to yamcha nobody in dbz has withstood geass level mind control, which is what koto amatsukami is. It writes codes into the opponents brain.

Regular genjutsu is more than enough to at least stop a dbz character in there tracks. Example vegeta under went a lot off pain and stress when babidi attempted to control him. Even bringing vegeta to his knees. Yamcha is nowhere near as powerful as vegeta at that point so genjutsu is def a viable weapon against yamcha.

Yamcha is also human and is not immune to poison or illness. Goku himself died from one. There are tons of poison type techniques in naruto that yamcha cannot withstand.

Im pretty sure the magic used against superman is stronger than the genjutsu/techniques in naruto. Im pretty sure babidis magic is way stronger aswell. It makes sense to say the stronger the opponent the stronger your magic/genjustu/technique should be. I dont think anything in the narutoverse can competeAll dbz characters need to do is powerup. They have went through mind training as well with kami too.

Originally posted by OhLawdyLawd
Im pretty sure the magic used against superman is stronger than the genjutsu/techniques in naruto. Im pretty sure babidis magic is way stronger aswell. It makes sense to say the stronger the opponent the stronger your magic/genjustu/technique should be. I dont think anything in the narutoverse can competeAll dbz characters need to do is powerup. They have went through mind training as well with kami too.

Superman has been controlled by mind control techniques that dont involve magic also. Parasites, technology ect.

Babidi's mind control has nothing on a geass level technique.

Babidi's mind control still allows user to operate on their own free will.

A geass like kotoamatsukami does not.

Yiu cant power out of something you dont realize that your under.

Originally posted by chasedown
Superman has been controlled by mind control techniques that dont involve magic also. Parasites, technology ect.

Babidi's mind control has nothing on a geass level technique.

Babidi's mind control still allows user to operate on their own free will.

A geass like kotoamatsukami does not.

Yiu cant power out of something you dont realize that your under.

Uh, are you high?

Babidi's mind control specifically altered your personality itself by making you evil enough for him to control.

Kotoamatsukami relies on a base command that you can freely operate under, such as "protect Konoha". Itachi realized he was under it. You're forgetting that it only alters your five senses, meaning someone with a sixth sense like ki sense, or Solar sense, or phucking Spider sense even, can completely ignore it altogether. Not to mention that we've seen even supposedly unbreakable genjutsu in Naruto capable of being broken with strong enough energy. Yamcha's level of casual multi-planet busting power could easily shrug off any genjutsu in all of Naruto EASILY.

Otherwise, give proof other than a wavering statement that proves otherwise.

Originally posted by chasedown
Izanagi is not an instawin but it negates any harm done to the user. And kamui is instant teleportation which yamcha is not faster than.

Cell was reduced to cells not atoms.

Frieza reduced to ashes

Kid buu was purified by good spiritual energy.

Atoms are smaller than all of those things

So when it comes to edo tensei it triumphs over pbs

Show me one time when an edo tensei has faced cellular vaporization. Even then, you still need proof that said cellular destruction is capable of also bypassing planet+ level durability.

Kamui is not instant anything. Why do you think Minato easily out-sped it with light speed teleportation? Going by destructive force alone, Yamcha could handily vaporize an edo tensei with a wave of his hand, considering he has the destructive force of literally more than a BILLION times anything they have survived before.

Bloodlusted yamcha wins.... If he isnt then the verse has a chance the combonation of hax abilities from the many diffeent characters in the naruto verse is more than formidible for any opponent. Strength isnt the only factor in a battle.

The fight format must also be determined by the thread creator

Gauntlet format: yamcha wins

Team format: can be argued for either side

Originally posted by chasedown
Bloodlusted yamcha wins.... If he isnt then the verse has a chance the combonation of hax abilities from the many diffeent characters in the naruto verse is more than formidible for any opponent. Strength isnt the only factor in a battle.

The fight format must also be determined by the thread creator

Gauntlet format: yamcha wins

Team format: can be argued for either side

There is no argument to be made here. It's as simple as YAMCHA CAN EASILY WAVE AWAY AND DISREGARD ANY TECHNIQUE USED IN NARUTO, SIMPLY BECAUSE EVERY ATTACK IN NARUTO CAN BE OVERCOME WITH ENOUGH SHEER FORCE. Even Genjutsu.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
There is no argument to be made here. It's as simple as YAMCHA CAN EASILY WAVE AWAY AND DISREGARD ANY TECHNIQUE USED IN NARUTO, SIMPLY BECAUSE EVERY ATTACK IN NARUTO CAN BE OVERCOME WITH ENOUGH SHEER FORCE. Even Genjutsu.

How can yamcha overcome sealing techniques, survive atomic dismantling,defeat edo tensei, fight against kotoamatsukami, fight against being sent to another dimension by kaguya,kakashi or obito avoid having his energy blocked by a god. All of these thing plus more are being used by ppl who are way more intelligent than him. If yamcha was tricked and killed by a saibaman the verse should def present a problem for him if he isnt bloodlusted.

How can yamcha power out of illness when goku himself has died from it.

Genjutsu dont just get powerd out of naruto tried that and failed. Also last time i checked yamcha doesnt have a demon living inside of him.

How can yamcha overcome sealing techniques, survive atomic dismantling,defeat edo tensei, fight against kotoamatsukami, fight against being sent to another dimension by kaguya,kakashi or obito avoid having his energy blocked by a god. All of these thing plus more are being used by ppl who are way more intelligent than him

By killing them all before they can even blink

survive atomic dismantling

Atomisation isn't hax

defeat edo tensei

By blasting them apart with far more energy then they've been shown to survive (Don't mind me, I'll wait for the feat where they've been shown to tank, say, petatons of energy with ease)

avoid having his energy blocked by a god

Waiting for the feat where he shuts off energy levels that make the entire HST combined and x1000 a drop in the ocean

How can yamcha power out of illness when goku himself has died from it.

The heart disease that killed Goku was implied to be very powerful. Trunks after all did say "not even a mighty Super Saiyan could fight off such a disease" or whatever. Going by that statement, Trunks implied it was very powerful

Genjutsu dont just get powerd out of naruto tried that and failed

And yes, because Naruto=Yamcha silly me. Naruto couldn't even scathe Raditz.

Also last time i checked yamcha doesnt have a demon living inside of him.

That's the same shit as to why force users like Sidious and Revan couldn't mind**** Naruto characters "he has a demon fox living inside him"

Also "lawl genjutsu". Takes me back to the Naruto characters vs Star Wars top tier threads of the old days

Good times

Originally posted by StealthRanger
By killing them all before they can even blink

Atomisation isn't hax

By blasting them apart with far more energy then they've been shown to survive (Don't mind me, I'll wait for the feat where they've been shown to tank, say, petatons of energy with ease)

Waiting for the feat where he shuts off energy levels that make the entire HST combined and x1000 a drop in the ocean

The heart disease that killed Goku was implied to be very powerful. Trunks after all did say "not even a mighty Super Saiyan could fight off such a disease" or whatever. Going by that statement, Trunks implied it was very powerful

And yes, because Naruto=Yamcha silly me. Naruto couldn't even scathe Raditz.

That's the same shit as to why force users like Sidious and Revan couldn't mind**** Naruto characters "he has a demon fox living inside him"

Also "lawl genjutsu". Takes me back to the Naruto characters vs Star Wars top tier threads of the old days

Good times

Again it comes back to mindset which i conceded if hes bloodlusted he wins.

Atomic dismantling isnt hax but yamcha isnt coming back from that.