I don't see why SpOck can't pull SOME wins considering his (almost) complete lack of morals. Pym is still bound by those. Also defeating Avengers is not his only prep feat. In the End of the Earth storyline he basically took over the planet and all of the earth's heroes were unable to stop him. Took him several minutes to come up with a device that nearly killed a possessed Hyperion who only survived because Ock wanted him to. On the fly found a way to stop Anti-matter Electro who was too much for Thor to handle. Then there are those few times when Reed and Tony couldn't defuse bombs that Ock built, owning MODOK, fooling Reed etc etc
SpOck can easily threaten to murder a million people with prep unless Pym gives up, even if it's a bluff... considering his history there's no reason Hank won't believe it.
Originally posted by SamZED
I don't see why SpOck can't pull SOME wins considering his (almost) complete lack of morals. Pym is still bound by those. Also defeating Avengers is not his only prep feat. In the End of the Earth storyline he basically took over the planet and all of the earth's heroes were unable to stop him. Took him several minutes to come up with a device that nearly killed a possessed Hyperion who only survived because Ock wanted him to. On the fly found a way to stop Anti-matter Electro who was too much for Thor to handle. Then there are those few times when Reed and Tony couldn't defuse bombs that Ock built, owning MODOK, fooling Reed etc etc
SpOck can easily threaten to murder a million people with prep unless Pym gives up, even if it's a bluff... considering his history there's no reason Hank won't believe it.
Truth.
Not to mention, Hank Pym has admitted to be very impressed with the intelligence of Peter Parker. Hell, I think he even said once that if Peter put his mind to it, he would be smarter then him. He may have been exaggerating and feats may not prove that, but to say Pym is LEAGUEEEE aheads of Doc Ock (who rivals Peter and surpasses him in some respects) is pushing it.
Originally posted by SamZEDPym put a black hole on Doombot, he is also the only human who vocally acknowledges A.I. as sentient living beings. Idk if Morals really register with Pym like normal people post his Yellow Jacket stages. The killing innocents to make Pym quit is interesting but honestly Pym has 2 completely different time machines to bring people back from the dead with not to mention literally trillions of tiny eyes from which to gauge a bluff.
I don't see why SpOck can't pull SOME wins considering his (almost) complete lack of morals. Pym is still bound by those. Also defeating Avengers is not his only prep feat. In the End of the Earth storyline he basically took over the planet and all of the earth's heroes were unable to stop him. Took him several minutes to come up with a device that nearly killed a possessed Hyperion who only survived because Ock wanted him to. On the fly found a way to stop Anti-matter Electro who was too much for Thor to handle. Then there are those few times when Reed and Tony couldn't defuse bombs that Ock built, owning MODOK, fooling Reed etc etc
SpOck can easily threaten to murder a million people with prep unless Pym gives up, even if it's a bluff... considering his history there's no reason Hank won't believe it.
Originally posted by OnslaughtKILLSOck's best feats are in robotics, Pyms feats absolutely & inarguably crap all over them.
Truth.Not to mention, Hank Pym has admitted to be very impressed with the intelligence of Peter Parker. Hell, I think he even said once that if Peter put his mind to it, he would be smarter then him. He may have been exaggerating and feats may not prove that, but to say Pym is LEAGUEEEE aheads of Doc Ock (who rivals Peter and surpasses him in some respects) is pushing it.