Superman Vs. Team

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos also has better durability than Superman so it is more impressive since Doomsday needs to do so faster according to your own logic.

You already implied he can't pierce Superman despite him doing so to Thanos.

Once again Hulk, Thor, and Thanos off the top of my head.

I already proved one claim and once you acknowledge that I will move on to the next claim.

Thanos at that point in his life had been pierced by a simple merc axe so Logan doing it isn't impressive.

Hulk gets pierced all the time so not impressive, Thor gets hurt by bullets.

Doomsday pierced Superman due to fact he hits harder and faster than Wolverine.

I get it, you can't prove the blast claim and need a h1 lvl excuse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wolverine can cut Thor, Hulk and even Thanos

Didn't he pierced Gladiator too? or I am misremembering?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos ain't in this thread.

Thanos at that point in his life had been pierced by a simple merc axe so Logan doing it isn't impressive.

Hulk gets pierced all the time so not impressive, Thor gets hurt by bullets.

Doomsday pierced Superman due to fact he hits harder and faster than Wolverine.

I get it, you can't prove the blast claim and need a h1 lvl excuse.

Plot device. I guess Superman being cut by far less than Wolverine's claws should be brought up because of that one axe.

Hulk gets more impressive the stronger he gets and piercing him is impressive despite you saying otherwise. Thor has shown the durability and power to affect Galactus by making contact but I guess that doesn't count either because bullets.

Wolverine doesn't need to move that fast or hit that hard due to his impressive claws. I agree. Stick to the topic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't believe they need to due to the other members of the team all attacking. It isn't just one or both of them. All of the attacks contribute to damaging Superman.

How long do you believe Superman can stand there and just tank Iron Man's blasts ?

The attacks don't stack, though. It's not like a videogame, where he has a health bar and every little punch gradually decreases it. If a 5-year old taps me on my shoulder, it doesn't hurt me. Neither do 100 taps, even if they are all occurring at once. Iron Fist/Ben Grimm/Spiderman/Cage, won't be rocking him on average.

You'll have to use their high showings (IF destroying the train etc) to do so. And then, you'll have to use Superman's high showings as well to be fair.

Btw, Cyclops won't be blasting at the same time as the others, he lacks the control/confidence to do so. He'll wait until he has a very clear shot. So that is a major blaster taken off the field already.

As for IM, I don't want to say how long for, as that ventures in h1 territory. But how long do you think Superman will just stand there and tank, before using speed?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The attacks don't stack, though. It's not like a videogame, where he has a health bar and every little punch gradually decreases it. If a 5-year old taps me on my shoulder, it doesn't hurt me. Neither do 100 taps, even if they are all occurring at once. Iron Fist/Ben Grimm/Spiderman/Cage, won't be rocking him on average.

You'll have to use their high showings (IF destroying the train etc) to do so. And then, you'll have to use Superman's high showings as well to be fair.

Btw, Cyclops won't be blasting at the same time as the others, he lacks the control/confidence to do so. He'll wait until he has a very clear shot. So that is a major blaster taken off the field already.

As for IM, I don't want to say how long for, as that ventures in h1 territory. But how long do you think Superman will just stand there and tank, before using speed?

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Their combined attacks weather him down. Wolverine has pierced far more durable beings and his peers on average.

I am using their average showings saying they beat him.

But according to you cyclops won't even blast yet I'm supposed to believe that is a fair tactic.

Not before it is too late as he is taken out before he uses speed.

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A simple blast of HV would take down everyone save Iron Man here. After that he rips Tony's armor into pieces. Current Logan is a *****.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he was but Wolervinr is and when asked to back my claim you ignore evidence.

Plot device. I guess Superman being cut by far less than Wolverine's claws should be brought up because of that one axe.

Hulk gets more impressive the stronger he gets and piercing him is impressive despite you saying otherwise. Thor has shown the durability and power to affect Galactus by making contact but I guess that doesn't count either because bullets.

Wolverine doesn't need to move that fast or hit that hard due to his impressive claws. I agree. Stick to the topic.

It's not a plot device at all stop lying. Name the times Supes got cut easy. Others pierced WWH as easy as Logan so again not impressive.

Thor effecting Galactus has nothing to do with been cut, using your logic then Superman shouldn't get cut because he's stood up to greater.

Maybe he doesn't but using Doomsday as a example is ignoring context like you do.

It is part of the topic, the same topic you're failing to back up

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe these guys are like five year olds despite their showings ? If the five years olds grab a knife and cut your throat you're dead. Wolverines claws are sharper and cut far more than mere knives.

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Their combined attacks weather him down. Wolverine has pierced far more durable beings and his peers on average.

I am using their average showings saying they beat him.

But according to you cyclops won't even blast yet I'm supposed to believe that is a fair tactic.

Not before it is too late as he is taken out before he uses speed.

Wait a minute. So you are arguing this team can beat Superman?

Spidey gets one shot
IF gets one shot
Powerman gets one shot
Cyclops gets one shot
Wolverine gets one shot
Grimm gets one shot

Iron man and Aquaman gets the beat down.

Superman has a bazillion ways to win. He would be playing with them like toys. Freezing them into blocks, hv them, blowing them away, blitzing them before they can react, bfring them, punching them far away, or mere ko punch them. This thread is borderline spite.

Wolverine has pierced...

Gladiator
Ironman
Thanos
Phoenix
Thor
Hulk

Hell, the question should be, who has withstood his claws. Also, DCNU Superman and DCU Superman have both been pierced by far less. Wolverine piercing him isn't the concern in this battle...it's how will he do it. If Superman flies down swinging his fist then the team pulls a majority. He he fights smart, then he will pull a majority. It's simple but Wolverine is the most deadliest here. Stab to the head could probably finish it but that's if Superman is fighting crazy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe these guys are like five year olds despite their showings ? If the five years olds grab a knife and cut your throat you're dead. Wolverines claws are sharper and cut far more than mere knives.

😂

Their combined attacks weather him down. Wolverine has pierced far more durable beings and his peers on average.

I am using their average showings saying they beat him.

But according to you cyclops won't even blast yet I'm supposed to believe that is a fair tactic.

Not before it is too late as he is taken out before he uses speed.

I'm saying the gap between them and Supes is, yes.

The five year olds can grab their knives, sure. But this assumes I suddenly forget that I am much much faster than them. Full capacity rule still stands.

According to me? No. According to comics. Ever since AvX, Cyclops has lost most of his control, and with it, his confidence in using his powers. You want Cyclops to suddenly stop being Cyclops, and start blasting, then Superman starts speedblitzing and throwing them all into the Sun ftw. But that's silly.

How long does it take to be too late?

I forgot - Wolverine currently has no HF. And he hangs back nowadays BECAUSE he has no HF, and has had to adapt his fighting style.

Cyclops can't hurt Superman. Period. And trust me, I know.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine has pierced...

Gladiator
Ironman
Thanos
Phoenix
Thor
Hulk

Hell, the question should be, who has withstood his claws. Also, DCNU Superman and DCU Superman have both been pierced by far less. Wolverine piercing him isn't the concern in this battle...it's how will he do it. If Superman flies down swinging his fist then the team pulls a majority. He he fights smart, then he will pull a majority. It's simple but Wolverine is the most deadliest here. Stab to the head could probably finish it but that's if Superman is fighting crazy.

Name people weaker than Wolverine that have pierced Superman without PIS or some sort of weakness exploitation.

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If Superman shoots off ONE. Literally ONE, AOE attack, most of the opposing team is either dead our out of the fight.

Not to mention current Superman has a crazy HF, Ghost Soldier literally split his heart in half and Superman fought even after that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Preboot or DCNU?

Not that it matters much, just curious.

Superman mauls either way, even without his full speed.

Two scenarios are fine

Originally posted by -Pr-
Cyclops can't hurt Superman. Period. And trust me, I know.

Name people weaker than Wolverine that have pierced Superman without PIS or some sort of weakness exploitation.

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If Superman shoots off ONE. Literally ONE, AOE attack, most of the opposing team is either dead our out of the fight.

I agree about Cyclops as shown per my example on the first page.

In regards to piercing Superman...I'm not going there but Wolverine have a history of slicing through people either on or above Superman tier but I don't think it will go that far unless Superman (and Thor in the other battle Geeker made) fought like morons.

I agree with the blast by Superman as well. That's why I gave him the majority but if he got close, Aquaman would literally give him a hell of a fight and adding in Ironman, the team could win. That's IF Superman didn't play his cards right. He will have basic knowledge though so I see no reason why he wouldn't take the safe route in this battle.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree about Cyclops as shown per my example on the first page.

In regards to piercing Superman...I'm not going there but Wolverine have a history of slicing through people either on or above Superman tier but I don't think it will go that far unless Superman (and Thor in the other battle Geeker made) fought like morons.

I agree with the blast by Superman as well. That's why I gave him the majority but if he got close, Aquaman would literally give him a hell of a fight and adding in Ironman, the team could win. That's IF Superman didn't play his cards right. He will have basic knowledge though so I see no reason why he wouldn't take the safe route in this battle.

Aquaman and Iron Man winning against Superman in h2h?

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Originally posted by carver9
I agree about Cyclops as shown per my example on the first page.

In regards to piercing Superman...I'm not going there but Wolverine have a history of slicing through people either on or above Superman tier but I don't think it will go that far unless Superman (and Thor in the other battle Geeker made) fought like morons.

I agree with the blast by Superman as well. That's why I gave him the majority but if he got close, Aquaman would literally give him a hell of a fight and adding in Ironman, the team could win. That's IF Superman didn't play his cards right. He will have basic knowledge though so I see no reason why he wouldn't take the safe route in this battle.

Wolverine has pierced people a tier above???

Well lets assume that DC comics and Marvel Comics write their comics in the same manner.

While Marvel is more based on reality, DC is less, so lets assume the word "invulnerable" has the same value on both universes. 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Aquaman and Iron Man winning against Superman in h2h?

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Wolverine has pierced people a tier above???

Well lets assume that DC comics and Marvel Comics write their comics in the same manner.

While Marvel is more based on reality, DC is less, so lets assume the word "invulnerable" has the same value on both universes. 👆

I agree...it does have the same meaning.

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Yeah just like Quicksilver and Superman both have Super speed therefore both are on the same level