Originally posted by Nephthys
He could probably just create a new body out of thin air. Sel Makor was capable of popping monsters into existence and Vitiate would far outstrip him by miles.
I wonder if the Force, itself, would allow that. If that ritual succeeded, there wouldn't be anything or anyone to stop Vitiate, ever. FOTJ Luke would've Sithed his pants at the thought....
Originally posted by Nephthys
He could probably just create a new body out of thin air. Sel Makor was capable of popping monsters into existence and Vitiate would far outstrip him by miles.
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I disagree that he reaches into the tier of beings such as Galactus, though. But then again, you don't need to be as powerful as him to be capable of defeating the Ones.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
I wonder if the Force, itself, would allow that. If that ritual succeeded, there wouldn't be anything or anyone to stop Vitiate, ever. FOTJ Luke would've Sithed his pants at the thought....
Well obviously it didn't since the HoT was born and pushed his shit in.
If the ritual had worked though he would basically be the Force.
Originally posted by Nephthys
If the ritual had worked though he would basically be the Force.
Probably not right away, but he would start consuming other galaxies as well and finally absorb every existence and reality into himself. Once he is the universe itself then he would be like the force itself.
Though force also existed in nothingness(after death) where Vitiate wouldn't be existing. I wonder who would win if nothingness and presence fought each other 🤣
Originally posted by PTforthewin
See this is how TOR is ruining Star Wars, making random characters having a greater potential then the Skywalkers, the Skywalkers should always be the most powerful force users.
Lord Scourge once remarked to HoT that Emperor Vitiate will surpass the 'combined might' of every Jedi and Sith in the history of the galaxy, should he succeed in his grand plan.
Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia reveals that Emperor Vitiate would surpass every thing in power in the galactic history, should he succeed in his grand plan.
So yes, Supreme Vitiate stomps The Son in to oblivion.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
And at their full potential the Skywalkers are still greater than Vitiate. Well the top Skywalkers anyways.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I often wonder whether or not Vitiate's ritual would've succeeded.
I'm going to go ahead and say no, since the quote I've provided stating that Palpatine's force storm threatened to consume all of space (which is a display of raw power unmatched by any in SW history) was ignored on account of it "being stupid." So I'm dismissing Vitiate's ritual for the same reason.
Regardless, even if Vitiate did become one with the galaxy, the son and daughter were suggested by the father as having the power to rip apart the very fabric of the universe. Some might refer to the father's claim as being exaggerated; however, if we consider Palpatine's ability to rip apart the fabric of space, and the fact that Palpatine is not comparable to the ones of mortis in force power, then I wouldn't put it past the son and daughter of being capable of the same demonstration of power except on a far larger scale. Vitiate can become one with the galaxy and still be annihilated by the son if the son is unleashed on the galaxy.
Furthermore, if Vitiate was such a threat, why didn't the force itself seem to regard him as such? Even in the EU Palpatine is still depicted as being the greatest threat to the force and having the most intimate bond with the dark side than any before or after him, which is why his death was a prophesied event at the hands of a messiah-like figure who was created by the force itself for that very purpose. Even God-like beings directly interfered to direct certain jedi such as Yoda towards a path in defeating Sidious. Not to mention Palpatine's very death had a bigger affect on the force than any other dark sider's.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Furthermore, if Vitiate was such a threat, why didn't the force itself seem to regard him as such? Even in the EU Palpatine is still depicted as being the greatest threat to the force and having the most intimate bond with the dark side than any before or after him, which is why his death was a prophesied event at the hands of a messiah-like figure who was created by the force itself for that very purpose. Even God-like beings directly interfered to direct certain jedi such as Yoda towards a path in defeating Sidious. Not to mention Palpatine's very death had a bigger affect on the force than any other dark sider's.
Exactly. If Vitiate was going to be a threat on that level, wouldn't that have been the time for the Chosen One to show up? I know the HoT is powerful, but he wasn't created by the Force itself, so it seems the threat wasn't regarded, by the Force, as seriously as Palpatine. That may have been because the Force knew the ritual wouldn't have worked, though. Just a thought.