Revan vs Darth Malgus

Started by Nephthys5 pages

The choking is the ragdolling. They're lifted off their feat and immobilised with the Force.

I take scripted feats as canonical, though I don't necessarily use it as a base for my argument unless the other character's scripted feats are like the laters as well. Malgus and Revan both fit the bill for such, though for a versus with Revan against Dooku, using game mechanics as the bulk of your argument is, like you said, rather sad.

Especially because both Revan's and Malgus's feats have been replicated by random Council Member flashpoint bosses.

Malgus maybe...

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But no one does the asteroids, nor to be knowledge, such a large knockback. 😉

Whatever. Revan can be solo'd with ease. 😉

Originally posted by Nephthys
The choking is the ragdolling. They're lifted off their feat and immobilised with the Force.

I concede in this particular area, but I fail to see how this is more impressive then Revan's best TK feats. Though I'm not really in the mood for a debate arguing with feats are better. And I still see a lack of Force Resistance feats. 😬

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Whatever. Revan can be solo'd with ease. 😉

After they did that patch, yeah. However apparently he had a power that could one-shot the team until they removed/downgraded it.

Oric, a Jedi Councillor from the Assault on Tython flashpoint, achieved a similar effect to Revan, though the projectiles were chunks of ceiling rather than chunks of asteroid. I believe the pieces are smaller, but there's also more of them.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
After they did that patch, yeah. However apparently he had a power that could one-shot the team until they removed/downgraded it.

I heard of that too. It was called "master of the Force" or something like that, and it was a lightsaber based attack strangely.

I believe it only one shots one of the team's members though.

It is more impressive than revan's TK feats. Choking out (potentially) Wrath/Nox or HoT/Barsen'thor>Throwing asteroids while facing much weaker incarnations of the Wrath/Nox.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
After they did that patch, yeah. However apparently he had a power that could one-shot the team until they removed/downgraded it.

Wut? I've basically had the game since it came out, and I don't think he ever had such an attack.

But Malgus, does, actually. It's a lightning attack.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Oric, a Jedi Councillor from the Assault on Tython flashpoint, achieved a similar effect to Revan, though the projectiles were chunks of ceiling rather than chunks of asteroid. I believe the pieces are smaller, but there's also more of them.

Not nearly as impressive. 😬 The mass of just one of the astreoids is probably tenfold that of the ceiling debris, nor would the ceiling debris be close in distance in comparison from raining it from space.
I heard of that too. It was called "master of the Force" or something like that, and it was a lightsaber based attack strangely.

Interesting. So did they remove it, or downgrade it then? I know many Youtube people were pissed over the change, while others were happy they could finally beat him.

Not nearly as impressive. 😬 The mass of just one of the astreoids is probably tenfold that of the ceiling, nor would the ceiling be close in distance in comparison from raining it from space.

They weren't rained from space, they were suspended right next to the fight in tractor beams. 😬

They didn't even come from space, they were chunks mined from the Foundry's interior. (The Foundry was an asteroid, originally)

The asteroids next to the Foundry were too large to be the ones he telekentically pulled. I will try to find a YouTube video of someone looking up during the fight to see how far away the ones Revan pulled were from.

The chunks mined from the foundry could have varied largely in shape and size, just like mined ore does in real life.

Also, if someone looked up during that point I doubt they'd see anything but the asteroids appearing out of thin air.

And it's still a gameplay mechanic regardless.

Once I get to the LVL I'll tell you what it's like, I could not find any videos of it.
When I read "game mechanics", I think of the abilities your character can display in battle, such as the attack "Thrash". This is not even a attack any character can do, even if they wanted too. It is a part of the actual level itself, rather then being attached to a specific character like other game mechanics are. That is why even if some do not take scripted material as canon, this feat still should be.

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I'm not denying the probability that he used the surrounding asteroid chunks in the battle, I am denying that he stood still and let himself get slashed while he rained them vertically despite the asteroids being at angles around him rather than above him.

He defends himself with his blade, or positions the asteroids so they can't go near him, lol. And actually, towards the end of the meteor shower, he goes and attacks people while the asteroids are still pouring downwards. 😉

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm not denying the probability that he used the surrounding asteroid chunks in the battle, I am denying that he stood still and let himself get slashed while he rained them vertically despite the asteroids being at angles around him rather than above him.

Well obviously that didn't happen. But the feat still happened.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I concede in this particular area, but I fail to see how this is more impressive then Revan's best TK feats. Though I'm not really in the mood for a debate arguing with feats are better. And I still see a lack of Force Resistance feats. 😬

Ok, those ragdolling one of the TOR protags really does > Revan imo.

What are Revans Force Resistance feats?