Originally posted by DTMHe has never done so. That is making up a tactic. We see force pushes but never rag dolling someone over and over again. It's made up, kiddo.
So whats the problem with that statement. Palpatine was shown to TK toss objects around in battle, Robtard said he would TK around Khan, which other lesser force users were shown to do. Hardly sounds like making up evidence to me.
So, youre saying that because Palpatine never TK tossed a person, but others with his same powers but weaker than him did, and he himself did toss around car-sized pods like nothing, that therefore Palpatine TK tossing around Khan is made up nonsense?
So by that same admission, Palpatine should not be able to block incoming attacks with his lightsaber, as he never did so in the movies, even though we saw tiny younglings doing so, that because Palpatine never actually did so, that he shouldnt be able to. So younglings are more skilled than Palpatine then?
Yep, youre a nutter alright.
Originally posted by DTMNo, I am not saying that. I am saying he would toss someone like others have not back and forth over and over again until he breaks bones.
So, youre saying that because Palpatine never TK tossed a person, but others with his same powers but weaker than him did, and he himself did toss around car-sized pods like nothing, that therefore Palpatine TK tossing around Khan is made up nonsense?So by that same admission, Palpatine should not be able to block incoming attacks with his lightsaber, as he never did so in the movies, even though we saw tiny younglings doing so, that because Palpatine never actually did so, that he shouldnt be able to. So younglings are more skilled than Palpatine then?
Yep, youre a nutter alright.
You misunderstand my point. The feat he made up has never happened. Force push sure but they can't continuously force push until the opponents body is broken.
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Why not? If I can TK push someone across a room, why couldnt I do so again and again until they were a pile of mush? Or why couldnt Palpatine just force choke Khan, levitating him while doing so, both immobilizing Khan and killing him together? Your arguments are nitpicky, at best, and if thats your only evidence of making things up, then you have no cause to accuse me or others of doing so.
Originally posted by DTM
Why not? If I can TK push someone across a room, why couldnt I do so again and again until they were a pile of mush? Or why couldnt Palpatine just force choke Khan, levitating him while doing so, both immobilizing Khan and killing him together? Your arguments are nitpicky, at best, and if thats your only evidence of making things up, then you have no cause to accuse me or others of doing so.
Originally posted by quanchi112
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTa1vxmY3M1:32--1:38 we see him again force push him a greater distance away from himself. We then see at 1:41--1:43 Dooku use it on the platform to trap Obi to the ground. At no point do we see him repeatedly force push his bones to break because that isn't how it works. We have never seen a force push do anything other than knock someone back into an object or something. In the same scene we see him able to manipulate something that weighs far more than Obi [B]yet unable to seriously injure Obi with force attacks on his person alone.
Exaggerating force attacks into a pattern we have never seen isn't debating it is cooking up feats based off a powerset while ignoring the characters themselves and how they operate.
Khan wins due to his superhuman healing factor/resiliency, superhuman marksman ship, superhuman strength, superhuman athleticism, and superior weaponry.
Force pushes will just knock him back and his cellular regeneration makes his recovery well super fast because you guessed correctly he's superhuman. [/B]
I'll do one better. You just make up the scope of said feats outside how they occur in films.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You seem to be projecting here.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTa1vxmY3M
3:14--3:16 we see a force user force push Grievous but unable to to pin him against a wall and kill him. You make things up and ignore how their powers are portrayed in the films. He pushes him back like all force pushes. I mean you don't even grasp how the attack is used and it's down more than once yet have the audacity to call me desperate.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7oGf-a1Dqlc
You said a Jedi could disarm him with a gesture.
14 or so sends in this video we see Windu can't easily disarm Fett because he's too busy blocking his laser blasts and then jumping away from the flame thrower.
44 seconds in we see him force push his saber back not easily hold Jango in place because that has never happened just you making up feats again.
Jango's jet pack was damaged by the beast so he can't get away when Windu charges and decaps him. That is what Jedi basically do close the distance and attack with their sabers for the most part.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7LJS3YYTCN8
You said [B]any Jedi could disarm any skilled gun user easily. Here is proof I have evidence in the span of two seconds that isn't true at all.
8:12--8:14 Jango easily shoots down a Jedi.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xmR1ee223zQ
I have evidence that supports me while you just make up feats. Like I said keep cooking up feats because evidence will always support me not your fantasies. [/B]
Look evidence against non force users. Quit making shit up. I back my reasoning with examples.
Originally posted by DTMI just supported why Rob's made up tactic is bullshit and never supported by anything we have seen thus far.
Yes, youre an amazing debater, one might call you a masterdebater..........get it. 🙂Come on now, lets hug it out, you know you can use one after this UMPTEENTH thread of Khan getting his butt kicked.
Concede that you're wrong and you're just trying to make something up.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I just backed my reasoning with examples disproving your jackass theories. If it could be done Obi would have done so to Jango or General G. I broke it down. I'm an amazing debater. Concede away.😂
Except Palpatine is not Obi Wan, and we here in vs are not constrained to plot, so stop using plot induced stupidity by other characters no less, to justify anything. It breaks the rules. That is no different than saying that an Imperial Star Destroyer can never destroy the Millennium Falcon, because it never did.
Palpatine, rather easily.
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An indication of power of Darth Maul:
The above photo is of a multi-tonned starship which Darth Maul pulled down from a cliff with his power in the Force. Very impressive.
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Now watch what Palpatine did to the duo of Savage Opress and Darth Maul in a battle:
Yes, Palpatine (single-handedly) comfortably killed Savage Opress and subdued Darth Maul. In-fact, Darth Maul ended up begging for mercy. Savage Opress is not a joke either, he have history of killing some Jedi.
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In another occasion, Palpatine choked Count Dooku from lightyear(s) distance to discipline him or teach him a lesson. Yes, Count "freaking" Dooku.
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Palpatine can send an opponent packing in to a wall or something with such a force that the opponent can end up with broken bones, if the battle takes place in a region where structures are present. Otherwise, Palpatine can simply choke the opponent to submission or unleash lightning barrage on the opponent for same result. In-fact, Palpatine is incredibly fast and can literally blitz even skilled Jedi.
This is stupid. Comparing Obi-Wan's character and power levels to Palpatine's in order to lowball the latter is stupid. As stupid as it gets.
Fact is, Palpatine has in character showed the tendency to use the Force exactly how the pro-SW side argues him to be. Palpatine could break Khan's neck, or rupture his lungs, or splinter his bones while being blindfolded with both his hands tied behind his back, with Khan literally helpless to do anything about it.
This spite thread needs to be closed, IMO.
Or have quanchi's thread making privileges removed
Using Obi-Wan to lowball Palpatine would be like using Raditz or Nappa to lowball Goku. Or a Space Marine to lowball Angron or Leman Russ
Gotta love his attempts to use Greivous not being damaged by Obi-Wan's force attacks as a negative (certainly couldn't be that Grievous is durable, no certainly not)
Originally posted by Robtard
Senate Pod tossing was in Ep III. This is basic level SW knowledge.Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain
Originally posted by quanchi112
Throwing a body around like a rag doll. Back this laughable claim.
This is beyond trolling. How Quan is allowed to carry this on with this level of Trolling is beyond me.
Originally posted by roughrider
Maybe you should watch more Clone Wars then, where Paplatine takes on two rival Siths (Darth Maul and his brother Savage Oppress) and bitchslaps then both worse than Odin once did to Thanos, using the force to throw them like rag dolls.
He knows TCW is Canon to the movies, yet carries on putting in all of his OP's that "This is LIVE ACTION FILMS ONLY" in an attempt to try and make out the Jedi/Sith are less powerful than they actually are in Canon.
Not that it matters in this case. As even the Mod has pointed out, the senate tossing feat from Revenge of the Sith alone proves Khan has no chance.
But Trolls have to Troll. It's what they live for.