Captain America vs. Khan (h2h)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kirk blows, Klingon decimation, Spock fight. Proof. Quit being emotional just because you're wrong and you know it.

How is that proof of anything? Kirk is inconsequential to anything.. Same with Klingons.. Spock was going h2h with Khan and doing just fine. He wasn't overwhelmed the entire fight and Spock is well below Cap in pretty much every area. Cap beat far better people in both movies... Shit beating the winter solider and his bionic arm is far greater than anybody Khan beat. You keep citing regen abilities as if Cap doesn't have them 2.. he does and a better healing factor at that. He's stronger than Khan and decisively so.. faster and decisively so... Khan has ZERO.. NO physical advantages over Cap. Cap wins 10 out 10 and it won't even be that hard.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How is that proof of anything? Kirk is inconsequential to anything.. Same with Klingons.. Spock was going h2h with Khan and doing just fine. He wasn't overwhelmed the entire fight and Spock is well below Cap in pretty much every area. Cap beat far better people in both movies... Shit beating the winter solider and his bionic arm is far greater than anybody Khan beat. You keep citing regen abilities as if Cap doesn't have them 2.. he does and a better healing factor at that. He's stronger than Khan and decisively so.. faster and decisively so... Khan has ZERO.. NO physical advantages over Cap. Cap wins 10 out 10 and it won't even be that hard.

Spock lost. Spock showing he can temporarily keep up with Khan shows he is incredibly skilled.
Cap doesn't have Khan in any regard. Cap gets his skill crushed.

Khan wins 10/10 all day and everyday.

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Originally posted by Firefly218
Cap > Kirk
Cap > Spock
Cap > Khan

The fact that Spock can beat Kirk means nothing, because Kirk is still massively inferior to Cap.

Khan > all of them. He'd beat Cap down too.

Originally posted by KingD19
Sure, let's ignore how Vulcan's have a 3x strength/durability advantage over humans. Kirk got beaten down by Romulan miners too(Nero and his crew). They were super skilled. You know how they did it? By being 3x stronger than him.

Because we can clearly see Khan isn't some martial arts guru.

Khan is incredibly skilled and proved it in the film. Saying he wasn't skilled is being ignorant.

Who did Khan fight who was really skilled? Spock? Spock is nowhere near as skilled as the people Cap fought, and who else did Khan fight aside from no-names?

And Kirk held his own? Nero's second in command beat him to a pulp while ignoring his hits and outfighting him. Then he held him by the throat with one arm. The only reason Kirk survived that fight is because he got his gun. Unless that scene has been changed.

Originally posted by KingD19
Who did Khan fight who was really skilled? Spock? Spock is nowhere near as skilled as the people Cap fought, and who else did Khan fight aside from no-names?

And Kirk held his own? Nero's second in command beat him to a pulp while ignoring his hits and outfighting him. Then he held him by the throat with one arm. The only reason Kirk survived that fight is because he got his gun. Unless that scene has been changed.

Against two Romulans for a time. He was crushed by Spock. You are thinking of the wrong scene.

Khan's strength, cellular regeneration, and skill end Cap.

So you're saying Cap didn't demonstrate skill through three entire movies? And demonstrate how superior he was against similarly enhanced opponents, aliens, and the like?

Originally posted by KingD19
So you're saying Cap didn't demonstrate skill through three entire movies? And demonstrate how superior he was against similarly enhanced opponents, aliens, and the like?

I told you why Khan wins. Quit crying about it.

Quan you've said why YOU THINK Khan wins. I've yet to see any real evidence to suggest he does.

Originally posted by Newjak
Quan you've said why YOU THINK Khan wins. I've yet to see any real evidence to suggest he does.

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Because there is no evidence. It's simply Quan stating what he wishes was true.

Originally posted by KingD19
Because there is no evidence. It's simply Quan stating what he wishes was true.

Have we established who is stronger out of the two?

Cap has some pretty good strength feats. Just a rough estimate but I would put them both in the same general ball-park.

Feats from First Avenger, Avengers, and Winter Soldier put Cap solidly above Khan.

Originally posted by KingD19
Feats from First Avenger, Avengers, and Winter Soldier put Cap solidly above Khan.

Name a specific feat and quit citing entire movies. Laughable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, he doesn't have the combination of what Khan brings to the table. Strength+Healing abilities+hand to hand skill+ruthlessness=Dead Cap.

Name a specific feat and quit citing entire movies. Laughable.

Everything you listed Cap has in greater amounts than Khan save ruthlessness, but he can be ruthless if necessary. He chopped off a Chitauri's arm and blew up one or two of them without hesitation. He also snapped one's neck I believe.

And you haven't named a feat either, but if you want, I can do that.

First Avenger
Punched clean through reinforced submarine glass/plastic.
Kept up with a speeding car.
Hurdled a fence that was at least 8-9 feet high.
Threw a man from sea level up to a dry dock that was at least 15 feet above.
Red Skull dented steel(He and Cap are physical equals)

Winter Soldier
Runs literal circles around Falcon and does something like 13 miles in half an hour.

Beats up 12 or 13 highly trained agents in a tiny elevator while getting zapped with high powered stun rods and having one arm locked by a magnetic clamp.

He overpowers the clamp as well and easily knocks a guy a good 5 feet straight up with almost no leverage or wind up.

Takes out an entire ship full of mercs without any help.

Sends guys flying casually.

Drops hundreds of feet and is fine twice.

Beat Batroc with ease.

Beat Winter Soldier and his robo arm which was uber powerful.

Got shot 3 times, pounded in the face by a bionic arm and was still in fighting shape.

etc, etc...

Now what has Khan done?

Captain America has way better H2H feats than Khan.

Originally posted by Newjak
Quan you've said why YOU THINK Khan wins. I've yet to see any real evidence to suggest he does.

Quan can't back up his arguments with facts, thus he pretends that stating his opinion is the same thing as backing up his claims.

That and he enjoys trolling.

I think a battlezone is coming up.

Originally posted by KingD19
Everything you listed Cap has in greater amounts than Khan save ruthlessness, but he can be ruthless if necessary. He chopped off a Chitauri's arm and blew up one or two of them without hesitation. He also snapped one's neck I believe.

And you haven't named a feat either, but if you want, I can do that.

First Avenger
Punched clean through reinforced submarine glass/plastic.
Kept up with a speeding car.
Hurdled a fence that was at least 8-9 feet high.
Threw a man from sea level up to a dry dock that was at least 15 feet above.
Red Skull dented steel(He and Cap are physical equals)

Winter Soldier
Runs literal circles around Falcon and does something like 13 miles in half an hour.

Beats up 12 or 13 highly trained agents in a tiny elevator while getting zapped with high powered stun rods and having one arm locked by a magnetic clamp.

He overpowers the clamp as well and easily knocks a guy a good 5 feet straight up with almost no leverage or wind up.

Takes out an entire ship full of mercs without any help.

Sends guys flying casually.

Drops hundreds of feet and is fine twice.

Beat Batroc with ease.

Beat Winter Soldier and his robo arm which was uber powerful.

Got shot 3 times, pounded in the face by a bionic arm and was still in fighting shape.

etc, etc...

Now what has Khan done?

I named the skull crushing feat, liar.

Not impressed with his feats from part one.

Not impressed there either.

Those guys weren't anything special. Khan would have annihilate them as well.

Khan has knocked men much farther than that distance.

Khan has dropped 98 feet despite surviving a near fatal crash. Amazing showing.

Khan was shot 8 times. Lol at 3 times.

Skull crushing, Spock beatdown, survived fatalistic crash, sprinted and then like I said crushed Spock, jumped 98 feet, decimated a Klingon squad by himself, Uhura acted like there was no possible way to defeat that many mean, crushed a skull, let Kirk punch him until he tired himself out, resisted the Nerve pinch, and his blood's healing properties are so effective they can resurrect the dead in the right conditions.

Khan wins.