Is there a Top Tier female super villain?

Started by Mindset3 pages

Thanos.

Originally posted by Q99

If they don't make it, we can't buy it, and if they do a bad job of making it and/or making it known that it's out there to get, we can't do their job for them.

Except that there have been times where they have done their job.

Lots of posts, thank you.

I think my question's been answered, but what i meant by top tier wss, i guess, status. To use my earlier example, a female that elucits the same oh damn reaction in both characters and rwsders as when you say:
"Luthor/Doom is behind this."
Or
"Thanos/Darkseid is coming."

Karnilla the Asgardian Norn Queen.

Marvel's Hercules' evil stepmum, Hera

Lilith from Vertigo. Specifically as she was portrayed in Carey's Lucifer series.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Blame the people who buy the comic books not the Companies itself.

In general people aren't going to buy something they don't like just to boost the sales of female characters. There just isn't the interest out there.

But I can't think of many top tier female villains - and I mean by influence, longevity, or popularity, not power. Selene, Circe, and Morgana le Fay, & Poison Ivy fulfill some of that but not all. Catwoman is not really a top tier villain.

Influence, longevity, popularity. Nicely put. You get where my inarticulate self was going with this.

Don't know about top tier but Enchantress is pretty tough

At Marvel - Enchantress, Selene had her own Necrosha arc a few years ago, Cassandra Nova might be making her return any day now...
Also there's Umar if you start getting into the cosmics.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Except that there have been times where they have done their job.

Sure, and that's why we have some really notable villainesses like Mystique and etc. etc.. But ultimately they have to be the one who makes a villainess before we can be fans of said villainess.

Mystique being a nice example of someone who's not high in power, but is behind *so much stuff*, and has a lot of influence / longevity / popularity.

Emma Frost too, but by this point she's been hero longer than villain.

Originally posted by riv6672
Lots of posts, thank you.

I think my question's been answered, but what i meant by top tier wss, i guess, status. To use my earlier example, a female that elucits the same oh damn reaction in both characters and rwsders as when you say:
"Luthor/Doom is behind this."
Or
"Thanos/Darkseid is coming."


Originally posted by Epicurus
Lilith from Vertigo. Specifically as she was portrayed in Carey's Lucifer series.

I guess. Not saying no, but its a small thing in the long run.
Women are extremely under repped in comics as big time menaces.

Originally posted by riv6672
I guess. Not saying no, but its a small thing in the long run.

She was one of the main co-conspirators which involved war between Heaven and Hell, and then got to be one of the 2 people who gets to decide the fate of the multiverse.

Being a major villain among Lucifer's enemies doesn't mean you are on Thanos/Darkseid's level of villainy. It means you're beyond it and then some.

Uh huh.

Originally posted by riv6672
Influence, longevity, popularity. Nicely put. You get where my inarticulate self was going with this.
I think that these characters exist, but are limited to being the 'big bad' of particular circles:

Lady Shiva, among DC martial arts characters

Madame Hydra is often seen as this to SHIELD/Marvel spy stories

The X-Men Emma Frost (formerly), Cassandra Nova and Selene.

Probably the closest answer you can get to what you're looking for are the various Phoenix hosts - Dark Phoenix is enough to make the whole Marvel Earth and beyond (Shi'ar, etc) go 'oh, shit!'. See: Avengers vs. X-Men. Not really a true 'top tier female', but it is interesting that the Phoenix almost always has a female host.

Dr. Doom in the upcoming FF movie apparently...

...What?

Madelyne Pryor

Originally posted by -Pr-
...What?
You better off not knowing. Just.. don't use the internet for a few years...

EDIT: Actually never mind, just checked, IGN says the studio dropped the idea. Thank God...

They dropped it?
Man i was going to ship Doom/Sue HARD. 🙁