Originally posted by Kazenji
Blame the people who buy the comic books not the Companies itself.
In general people aren't going to buy something they don't like just to boost the sales of female characters. There just isn't the interest out there.
But I can't think of many top tier female villains - and I mean by influence, longevity, or popularity, not power. Selene, Circe, and Morgana le Fay, & Poison Ivy fulfill some of that but not all. Catwoman is not really a top tier villain.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Except that there have been times where they have done their job.
Sure, and that's why we have some really notable villainesses like Mystique and etc. etc.. But ultimately they have to be the one who makes a villainess before we can be fans of said villainess.
Mystique being a nice example of someone who's not high in power, but is behind *so much stuff*, and has a lot of influence / longevity / popularity.
Emma Frost too, but by this point she's been hero longer than villain.
Originally posted by riv6672
Lots of posts, thank you.I think my question's been answered, but what i meant by top tier wss, i guess, status. To use my earlier example, a female that elucits the same oh damn reaction in both characters and rwsders as when you say:
"Luthor/Doom is behind this."
Or
"Thanos/Darkseid is coming."
Originally posted by Epicurus
Lilith from Vertigo. Specifically as she was portrayed in Carey's Lucifer series.
Originally posted by riv6672
I guess. Not saying no, but its a small thing in the long run.
Being a major villain among Lucifer's enemies doesn't mean you are on Thanos/Darkseid's level of villainy. It means you're beyond it and then some.
Originally posted by riv6672I think that these characters exist, but are limited to being the 'big bad' of particular circles:
Influence, longevity, popularity. Nicely put. You get where my inarticulate self was going with this.
Lady Shiva, among DC martial arts characters
Madame Hydra is often seen as this to SHIELD/Marvel spy stories
The X-Men Emma Frost (formerly), Cassandra Nova and Selene.
Probably the closest answer you can get to what you're looking for are the various Phoenix hosts - Dark Phoenix is enough to make the whole Marvel Earth and beyond (Shi'ar, etc) go 'oh, shit!'. See: Avengers vs. X-Men. Not really a true 'top tier female', but it is interesting that the Phoenix almost always has a female host.